So Much Fun
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jejquade
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Ardross do you like fishing?
Jejquade enjoy the fun while you can because at this rate you will be gone by the end of the day and (IMO) rightly so. I have problems with Ardross at times as well but I wouldn't lower myself as you have done in your last two threads (one of which is deleted). I really do wonder do some people have lives outside of this forum.....there are much more important things in life to get worked up/upset about.
jejquade
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I agree. But the people that seem to have a problem with me, live and breathe this site. Its a lovely day outside, and i for one am off out to enjoy it.
Shadow Leader
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No, it's not that. There are several people who, like me, are getting seriously hacked off with the way things are going on this forum. It used to be a friendly place but things are getting out of hand now. All of you who continually run the place down & slag it off - either shut the hell up & behave or bugger off.
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maybe not....I could have put it more diplomatically but I've said that enough times already & it has no effect whatsoever.....
Diminuendo
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SL, that isn't going to help at all.
The forum at the moment reminds me of school. There are the ones in charge who seem to enjoy bossing everyone around. There are some bullies who really enjoy dishing it out, and there are others who are keeping right out of it. I don't see anyone ' slagging ' off the forum, it is just getting personal at times.
Ardross to ask ' should we close down the general chit chat' section, is just asking for trouble. You already know what the result will be.
The forum at the moment reminds me of school. There are the ones in charge who seem to enjoy bossing everyone around. There are some bullies who really enjoy dishing it out, and there are others who are keeping right out of it. I don't see anyone ' slagging ' off the forum, it is just getting personal at times.
Ardross to ask ' should we close down the general chit chat' section, is just asking for trouble. You already know what the result will be.
Colin Phillips
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"......I'm a troll, fol-de-rol, and I'll eat you for my supper"
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Jamie
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My God, why dont you all just stop doing this shit? Your ruining what I see as the best forum on the web, for the sake of a few personal jibes. Use the PM facility or nothing at all. If you have a problem with someone, don't talk to them, they will eventually get bored and move onto the next poor sod who will have to deal with them, at least then they'll be gone off this forum.
Lets try and restore some normality about the place, its upto us to do it, Colin has a tough enough job as it is, he runs this forum for you, and some of you are trying to ruin it.
Im an owner of a racing forum myself, and I know what a tough job it is, ive had problems and have spent countless hours being up until 3am in the morning, to get my board to the best it can be. So I know how Colin feels, and I can assure you he'll be pissed off.
Lets try and restore some normality about the place, its upto us to do it, Colin has a tough enough job as it is, he runs this forum for you, and some of you are trying to ruin it.
Im an owner of a racing forum myself, and I know what a tough job it is, ive had problems and have spent countless hours being up until 3am in the morning, to get my board to the best it can be. So I know how Colin feels, and I can assure you he'll be pissed off.
Colin Phillips
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Owner and C.E.O, I see.
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Jamie
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Someone sets up a subscription-free site for the use of anyone with an interest in the subject. This one's is horse-racing, with a very popular chit-chat section and an 'any other sports' one, too, so that even someone with the slightest interest in racing can feel pretty much included at some level.
The members all sign up to a fairly stiff agreement of behaviour, which includes no personal insults, no abusive postings, and especially no postings which denigrate, insult, or try to cause trouble in regard to issues of race, religion, gender, and so on.
The person who owns the site has the right to appoint as many moderators as he or she wants, since he/she won't have the time to keep track of every posting. The moderators are there to ensure that the rules of agreement haven't been broken. As soon as personal fights break out on here, which they do these days with disappointing regularity, they have to delete the offending posts from either side, regardless of whether the person feels aggrieved by their action, or not. It's honestly that simple.
If a member feels hard done by, they should PM the site OWNER and put their case. There's no point in continually putting up their grievances about moderators on the site, because half the time Col has a life to lead and won't see them; if they're abusive - which many have been - the moderators will simply do the job they've been asked to do, and REMOVE them! Which, of course, leads to more public squabbling.
If you can't or won't post within a site's rules, and you regularly step outside its boundaries, then you get your posts deleted, until the site owner gets sick of you and bans you. I don't know why EVERY member, not just the majority, still doesn't understand something so simple.
Merlin, you were a guest of the Ch.4 site prior to joining this one, which is Col's own site. This site has not been running for 9 years, as we all know. The Ch.4 closed down entirely, overnight, because Stephen Burn found it was being abused frequently by members who kept commenting well outside the site's rules. You seem to think that this site is just a continuation of the Ch.4 model, which it isn't. And, frankly, just being a long-time member of racing websites doesn't mean that you have some special status over new members. You don't, and none of us do, other than we should welcome new ones, but at the same time try to help them to post within COL'S guidelines - not encourage them to break the rules.
Can I suggest that people who want total anarchy, with anyone saying anything in any manner, start up their OWN site? The concept of 'free speech' seems to be misunderstood: it doesn't actually mean you can say anything about anyone without paying a price for it - just check out the successful litigation lawyers winning huge costs against people who thought that was what 'free speech' meant. It basically means that in a democratic society, the government does not determine what may or may not be published or said, unless it contravenes a fairly long list of no-go areas, which (coincidence, or what?) contain racial, religious, and sexual slurs, and the incitement to hatred. Which means that there is no such thing as entirely 'free' speech - even in a democracy, there are some things which are off-limits. If you feel hard done by on this site, try appearing in court some time when you're sued for exercising too much freedom in your 'free' speech.
The members all sign up to a fairly stiff agreement of behaviour, which includes no personal insults, no abusive postings, and especially no postings which denigrate, insult, or try to cause trouble in regard to issues of race, religion, gender, and so on.
The person who owns the site has the right to appoint as many moderators as he or she wants, since he/she won't have the time to keep track of every posting. The moderators are there to ensure that the rules of agreement haven't been broken. As soon as personal fights break out on here, which they do these days with disappointing regularity, they have to delete the offending posts from either side, regardless of whether the person feels aggrieved by their action, or not. It's honestly that simple.
If a member feels hard done by, they should PM the site OWNER and put their case. There's no point in continually putting up their grievances about moderators on the site, because half the time Col has a life to lead and won't see them; if they're abusive - which many have been - the moderators will simply do the job they've been asked to do, and REMOVE them! Which, of course, leads to more public squabbling.
If you can't or won't post within a site's rules, and you regularly step outside its boundaries, then you get your posts deleted, until the site owner gets sick of you and bans you. I don't know why EVERY member, not just the majority, still doesn't understand something so simple.
Merlin, you were a guest of the Ch.4 site prior to joining this one, which is Col's own site. This site has not been running for 9 years, as we all know. The Ch.4 closed down entirely, overnight, because Stephen Burn found it was being abused frequently by members who kept commenting well outside the site's rules. You seem to think that this site is just a continuation of the Ch.4 model, which it isn't. And, frankly, just being a long-time member of racing websites doesn't mean that you have some special status over new members. You don't, and none of us do, other than we should welcome new ones, but at the same time try to help them to post within COL'S guidelines - not encourage them to break the rules.
Can I suggest that people who want total anarchy, with anyone saying anything in any manner, start up their OWN site? The concept of 'free speech' seems to be misunderstood: it doesn't actually mean you can say anything about anyone without paying a price for it - just check out the successful litigation lawyers winning huge costs against people who thought that was what 'free speech' meant. It basically means that in a democratic society, the government does not determine what may or may not be published or said, unless it contravenes a fairly long list of no-go areas, which (coincidence, or what?) contain racial, religious, and sexual slurs, and the incitement to hatred. Which means that there is no such thing as entirely 'free' speech - even in a democracy, there are some things which are off-limits. If you feel hard done by on this site, try appearing in court some time when you're sued for exercising too much freedom in your 'free' speech.
dvds2000
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bye
you were well warned
suspended within the first few days of joining and now banned
well done, hope you are happy
Colin Phillips
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This thread has reminded me of a famous Monty Python sketch.
No prizes because it ain't that difficult but would anyone care to suggest which sketch I'm thinking of?
Colin
No prizes because it ain't that difficult but would anyone care to suggest which sketch I'm thinking of?
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Ardross
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She has ceased to be
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Ardross
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Funnily enough I am sitting in a comfy chair
Anyway time to draw a line perhaps
Anyway time to draw a line perhaps
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