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not seeing the relevance of that really..i used their scale of lbs per length purely out of laziness

anyone can use wfa..but i wouldn't give different speed figures to two 3yo horses that equal standard at two different distances..because purely as a speed figure they have achieved the same rating

thats the argument - how can you implement it correctly?

the correct way is how Beyer does it..he doesn't add anything to younger horses

we only do it to make it easier to compare younger horses with older ones re speed figures..but adding 15 extra speed points to one horse and only 10 to another horse purely because its a different distance just isn't logical..speed figure wise...imo

if you do that you will find that all Derby winners will have greater ratings than Guineas winners..purely because you added 5/6 more points to the Derby winners..not because they are faster..but just because they ran over further

speed figures are based on speed from a to b..wfa is used to remove immaturity bewteen age groups when they meet in a race

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[QUOTE="EC1, post: 2261108, member: 65360"] not seeing the relevance of that really..i used their scale of lbs per length purely out of laziness:) anyone can use wfa..but i wouldn't give different speed figures to two 3yo horses that equal standard at two different distances..because purely as a speed figure they have achieved the same rating thats the argument - how can you implement it correctly? the correct way is how Beyer does it..he doesn't add anything to younger horses we only do it to make it easier to compare younger horses with older ones re speed figures..but adding 15 extra speed points to one horse and only 10 to another horse purely because its a different distance just isn't logical..speed figure wise...imo if you do that you will find that all Derby winners will have greater ratings than Guineas winners..purely because you added 5/6 more points to the Derby winners..not because they are faster..but just because they ran over further speed figures are based on speed from a to b..wfa is used to remove immaturity bewteen age groups when they meet in a race [/QUOTE]

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