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I think if you miss off wfa..the Derby and guineas winners would be of very similar speed ratings Gareth

the only issue with that comparison is that a fair few Derby's get low speed figures due to allowances being different at Epsom.

thats not a cop out either..its a big problem with getting a real measuer of the Derby speed figures.

you could say.. take the fastest 5 figures from 10 years maybe of each race

i'm not looking at it tonight though

[QUOTE="EC1, post: 2261110, member: 65360"] I think if you miss off wfa..the Derby and guineas winners would be of very similar speed ratings Gareth the only issue with that comparison is that a fair few Derby's get low speed figures due to allowances being different at Epsom. thats not a cop out either..its a big problem with getting a real measuer of the Derby speed figures. you could say.. take the fastest 5 figures from 10 years maybe of each race i'm not looking at it tonight though :) [/QUOTE]

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