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Re sectionals - using HAFFHD as an example - these were the official sectionals in his Craven and then in the guineas..with the going corrected to nil influence

Craven
5f
63.91
Finish
98.69

Guineas
5f
60.26
Finish
97.62

he ran the craven to 5f 3.6 seconds slower than he did in the guineas..final 3f time 34.78

final 3f in the guineas 37.36

Killybegs ran his Craven up to 5f in 64.03..very similar to Haffhd..his final 3f was 34.76

this begs the question..when a horse goes slow beyond a certain point..and the horses involved are not to dissimilar in level..they are going to run the last 3f in a similar time..basically its as fast as a horse of that level can run

At Newmarket..even pace is about 60/61 seconds over the mile on perfect good ground..so both the Cravens involved above were pretty pedestrian

so does knowing the last 3f time in a slow run race tell us much basically?

Killybegs would look to have a similar chance to Haffhd if viewing those Craven times..but we know he was beaten 8 lengths in his guineas..did both he and Haffhd run that slow early in their cravens to allow both to run as fast as its possible for horses at their level in those last 3f?

<blockquote data-quote="EC1" data-source="post: 2261208" data-attributes="member: 65360">Re sectionals - using HAFFHD as an example - these were the official sectionals in his Craven and then in the guineas..with the going corrected to nil influence&nbsp;Craven5f63.91Finish98.69&nbsp;Guineas5f60.26Finish97.62&nbsp;he ran the craven to 5f 3.6 seconds slower than he did in the guineas..final 3f time 34.78&nbsp;final 3f in the guineas 37.36&nbsp;Killybegs ran his Craven up to 5f in 64.03..very similar to Haffhd..his final 3f was 34.76&nbsp;this begs the question..when a horse goes slow beyond a certain point..and the horses involved are not to dissimilar in level..they are going to run the last 3f in a similar time..basically its as fast as a horse of that level can run&nbsp;At Newmarket..even pace is about 60/61 seconds over the mile on perfect good ground..so both the Cravens involved above were pretty pedestrian&nbsp;so does knowing the last 3f time in a slow run race tell us much basically?&nbsp;Killybegs would look to have a similar chance to Haffhd if viewing those Craven times..but we know he was beaten 8 lengths in his guineas..did both he and Haffhd run that slow early in their cravens to allow both to run as fast as its possible for horses at their level in those last 3f?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EC1, post: 2261208, member: 65360"] Re sectionals - using HAFFHD as an example - these were the official sectionals in his Craven and then in the guineas..with the going corrected to nil influence [B][U]Craven[/U][/B] [B]5f[/B] 63.91 [B]Finish[/B] 98.69 [B][U]Guineas[/U][/B] [B]5f[/B] 60.26 [B]Finish[/B] 97.62 he ran the craven to 5f 3.6 seconds slower than he did in the guineas..final 3f time 34.78 final 3f in the guineas 37.36 Killybegs ran his Craven up to 5f in 64.03..very similar to Haffhd..his final 3f was 34.76 this begs the question..when a horse goes slow beyond a certain point..and the horses involved are not to dissimilar in level..they are going to run the last 3f in a similar time..basically its as fast as a horse of that level can run At Newmarket..even pace is about 60/61 seconds over the mile on perfect good ground..so both the Cravens involved above were pretty pedestrian so does knowing the last 3f time in a slow run race tell us much basically? Killybegs would look to have a similar chance to Haffhd if viewing those Craven times..but we know he was beaten 8 lengths in his guineas..did both he and Haffhd run that slow early in their cravens to allow both to run as fast as its possible for horses at their level in those last 3f? [/QUOTE]

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