Talking Horses Ante Post Competition 2015 /2016

Diamond Geezer · Oct 21, 2015

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The Talking Horses Ante Post competition is a virtual betting competition based on ante post prices for the 2016 Cheltenham Festival and this season is generously sponsored by Grasshopper, Perpetual & Viking. There are prizes of £150 plus the Alan Morgan trophy (donated by Tout Seul) to the person whose bets generate the most winnings, and one of £50 to the person whose portfolio has the highest notional value as of 1[SUP]st[/SUP] March 2016. The Ante Post competition, as in previous years, will be run by NewApproach with the help of Grey who monitors ante post prices as they are posted.

The Ante Post competition will also count towards the Winter Competition, devised and sponsored by Grey, for which there is a prize of £100 to the player with the best combined performance in this and the already running Ten To Follow competition. Even if you have not entered the Ten To Follow competition, this does not preclude you entering this one, all are welcome.

Talking Horses Ante Post competition rules and conditions

1. The competition will open for entries on Sunday 1st November 2015 and close on Monday 29[SUP]th[/SUP] February 2016

2. Two prizes will be awarded, one of £150 plus the Alan Morgan trophy to the person whose bets generate the most winnings, and one of £50 to the person whose portfolio has the highest notional value on 29th Feb 2016.

3. Participants will have a separate bank for each month of the competition as follows:

November - £1000
December - £1000
January - £1000
February - £2000

4. The bank for each month can only be used during the month to which it refers.

5. Bets can be placed on the ante post market for any race at the Cheltenham Festival with any bookmaker displayed on oddschecker.com. Bets on a horse "to win any race" at the Festival are also permitted

6. Only single or each way bets will be accepted; multiple and other types of bet are excluded.

7. The minimum bet size is 10% of the monthly bank, i.e. £100/£50ew in November, December and January and £200/£100ew in February.

8. The maximum amount allowed on any one horse in any one race is £1,500. Bets on a horse in the "to win any festival race" market count towards this maximum.

9. There is no limit on the number of horses that can be backed, but only ten selections will count for scoring purposes.

10. Participants can indicate on or before the cut-off date of 29 Feb 2016 which selections they want to include in their final portfolio, otherwise the ten most recent will be chosen by default.

11. If a horse is separately backed for more than one race, each will count as a separate selection for the purposes of rules 9, 10 and 13. However, a horse backed in the "to win any race" market will count as just one selection.

12. The winner of the main prize will be the person whose final portfolio of bets generates the highest winnings. Bets will be settled according to normal ante post rules, but only the winnings will be counted.

13. The secondary prize will go to the portfolio which on 1st March 2016 has the highest 'notional value'. This is the total sum one would need to wager, taking the best available odds on 1st March 2016, to achieve the same potential winnings as the bets in the portfolio. (In simpler terms, bets on horses whose odds shorten during the winter gain value, while bets on drifters lose value).

14. The organisers will have the right to clarify, modify or add to the rules as they deem appropriate.

15. Any disputes, the decision of NewApproach and Grey will be final.

There will be four monthly threads (November, December, January & February) containing a link to oddschecker.com posted in the main body of the Horse Racing Forum on the last day of the preceding month, please use these for your virtual wagers as of the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] of each month. These can be stickied if required.

PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY VIRTUAL BETS ON THIS THREAD WHICH IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY.

Current prices can be found here

http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival

Roddy Owen · Nov 3, 2015

Which thread is for November or do we start one?

Diamond Geezer · Nov 3, 2015

http://www.talkinghorses.co.uk/foru...ost-Competition-2015-2016-NOVEMBER-selections

Diamond Geezer · Jan 5, 2016

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Diamond Geezer · Jan 21, 2016

As of January 21 Betbrights markets are excluded from this competition

archie · Jan 26, 2016

Are bets allowed in the w/o markets eg without Faugheen in the Champion hurdle?

Diamond Geezer · Jan 26, 2016

Are the odds displayed on oddschecker Archie ? If you could put up a link it would help because I can't see one.

The rules are mostly Grey's although I've tarted up one or two. Think the call on this one has to be with Grey and/or NewApproach, I just help with the administration of the comp.

archie · Jan 26, 2016

I'm looking at this market:
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/mares-hurdle/w-o-annie-power

NewApproach · Jan 27, 2016

archie said:
Are bets allowed in the w/o markets eg without Faugheen in the Champion hurdle?

After checking with Grey, I think these bets are fine, archie (as long as they are on Oddschecker).

Euronymous · Jan 28, 2016

Can't we have the up to date lists of selections on this thread rather than in December's

Diamond Geezer · Jan 28, 2016

Will do once this month's entries are in, still waiting on quite a few though

Tout Seul · Jan 28, 2016

£200ew Don't Touch It 33/1 Skybet Supreme Novice Hurdle
£600win Sausalito Sunrise 20/1 Hills Ultima BS Chase

an capall · Jan 28, 2016

Desoto County 1000 win County Hurdle at 16/1 with Skybet.

Diamond Geezer · Jan 29, 2016

Diamond Geezer said:
PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY VIRTUAL BETS ON THIS THREAD WHICH IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY.

Diamond Geezer · Feb 1, 2016

Subject to comparing notes with NewApproach I believe this to be a summary of everyone's portfolios from November to January

archie · Feb 1, 2016

I selected Morning Run rather than Morning Glory although I'm not sure that there's much difference.

Diamond Geezer · Feb 1, 2016

archie said:
I selected Morning Run rather than Morning Glory although I'm not sure that there's much difference.

Corrected above Archie

Grasshopper · Feb 1, 2016

Having had a nose through these, I'd have to say that fonz's bet on Yarnworth at 20/1 (£500 Win) looks a standout.

Selected in November too - quality effort.

Maruco · Feb 1, 2016

archie said:
I selected Morning Run rather than Morning Glory although I'm not sure that there's much difference.

Agreed. Both involve a trip to the loo at some point.

NewApproach · Feb 3, 2016

Sorry to be late with my update but been really busy at work last couple of days, I'll post some images tomorrow and can confirm that my spreadsheet tallies with DGs

NewApproach · Feb 4, 2016

Hopefully these make sense, they include all bets made up until yesterday.

(Any mistakes or discrepancies with DGs are mine in the formatting as the actual spreadsheets match)

Maruco · Feb 4, 2016

I'm not sure who's bets I've got NA, but they're looking a lot better than mine so can I keep them.

frontrunner · Feb 4, 2016

I must have got yours Paul, cause they look pretty crap!

Maruco · Feb 4, 2016

They all look great when we're on our tenth pint of Guiness Brian!

NewApproach · Feb 4, 2016

Yes, sorry about that - whilst formatting the tables I've done something weird and so everyone's name is against the next persons horses (or something like that), I'll fix them out as soon as I can.

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