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Gearoid
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Does anyone have the transcript of the conversation between Mutt and Jeff at the G8 convention that did not realise was being recorded?
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Priceless!
Hutchy
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When your young you tend to think that politicians and people in power know exactly what they are doing but as you get older and wiser and more cynical you learn that your youthful appraisal is just absolute b#ll#cks.
When you read articles like this it just reinforces everything you have learnt.
As Warbler said " Its worrying".
When you read articles like this it just reinforces everything you have learnt.
As Warbler said " Its worrying".
BrianH
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I'll tell you what is much more of a worry. Never mind Osama bin Laden, Kim Jong Il or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - George Bush is the most dangerous man in the world. And before the usual suspects jump to his defence I'll explain my reasoning. Bush has at his disposal unlimited resources and influence. As he has no policy at all other than that which is dictated to him by the neo-con treligious right (ban stem-cell research, online gambling etc) and the big corporations that back him (remember Kenny-boy?) these are either unused or misused.
This may cause you to take longer to get to sleep than usual. In response to Israel's reoccupation of Gaza and bombing of Lebanon Condoleza Rice urged restraint on Jerusalem. Her boss, the leader of the free world offered his support instead.
The exacerbation of the Middle East problems has come about since the US administration's abandonment of the peace process which their country had been so instrumental in starting.
On Iraq Bush makes speeches about "victory" and "defeat of the enemy" at the same time as his generals are telling him hat a political solution is the only solution as all-out civil war is on the horizon.
Peter Galbraith was a US Senate insider for many years and as such was involved in diplomacy with Iraq. In his book "The End Of Iraq: How American IncompetenceCreated A War without End" he tells, and attributes to specific sources, a highly worrying story. In January 2003 George Bush met three prominent Iraqi dissidentswho during he course of discussing the future of post-war Iraq talked about Sunnis and Shi'ites. It quickly became apparent to them that the president was totally unfamiliar with the terms.
While Bush was president-elect Bill Clinton's national security team Had a treaty with North Korea. Bush's future secretary of state, Colin Powell, was enthusiastic about the plans. When his mentors advised him to sever all links with the Clinton administration Bush pulled the plug on all diplomacy with North Korea, in the process humiliating Powell and South Korean president Kim Dae-Jung. North Korea reacted predictably with outrageous violations. The US negotiator, Charles Pritchard, was constantly subverted by the then under-secretary of state, John Bolton (later laughably made US Ambasador to the United Nations, an organisation for which he had always expressed contempt).
Bush noe refuses to talk to North Korea and his only "policy" is to kowtow to China in the hope that it will persuade Kim Jong Ilagainst developing his nuclear weapons. But it is the Chinese who have declared that they will veto any US initiated sanctions in the Un council.
Ex US-negotiator Pritchard wrote in the Washington Post last month: By not talking with North Korea we are failing to address missiles, human rights, illegal activities, conventinal forces, weapons of mass destruction, terrorism and anything else that matters to the American people. Isn't it about time we actually tried to solve the problem rather than let it fester until we blow it up?"
This may cause you to take longer to get to sleep than usual. In response to Israel's reoccupation of Gaza and bombing of Lebanon Condoleza Rice urged restraint on Jerusalem. Her boss, the leader of the free world offered his support instead.
The exacerbation of the Middle East problems has come about since the US administration's abandonment of the peace process which their country had been so instrumental in starting.
On Iraq Bush makes speeches about "victory" and "defeat of the enemy" at the same time as his generals are telling him hat a political solution is the only solution as all-out civil war is on the horizon.
Peter Galbraith was a US Senate insider for many years and as such was involved in diplomacy with Iraq. In his book "The End Of Iraq: How American IncompetenceCreated A War without End" he tells, and attributes to specific sources, a highly worrying story. In January 2003 George Bush met three prominent Iraqi dissidentswho during he course of discussing the future of post-war Iraq talked about Sunnis and Shi'ites. It quickly became apparent to them that the president was totally unfamiliar with the terms.
While Bush was president-elect Bill Clinton's national security team Had a treaty with North Korea. Bush's future secretary of state, Colin Powell, was enthusiastic about the plans. When his mentors advised him to sever all links with the Clinton administration Bush pulled the plug on all diplomacy with North Korea, in the process humiliating Powell and South Korean president Kim Dae-Jung. North Korea reacted predictably with outrageous violations. The US negotiator, Charles Pritchard, was constantly subverted by the then under-secretary of state, John Bolton (later laughably made US Ambasador to the United Nations, an organisation for which he had always expressed contempt).
Bush noe refuses to talk to North Korea and his only "policy" is to kowtow to China in the hope that it will persuade Kim Jong Ilagainst developing his nuclear weapons. But it is the Chinese who have declared that they will veto any US initiated sanctions in the Un council.
Ex US-negotiator Pritchard wrote in the Washington Post last month: By not talking with North Korea we are failing to address missiles, human rights, illegal activities, conventinal forces, weapons of mass destruction, terrorism and anything else that matters to the American people. Isn't it about time we actually tried to solve the problem rather than let it fester until we blow it up?"
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Ardross
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What makes second term moron Presidents even more dangerous is the fact they don't have to worry about being re-elected .
Israel is in gross breach of the Geneva Convention and is collectively punishing a whole country for the actions of Hezbollah . It is frankly the equivalent of the UK bombing Dublin , Cork and Galway for the actions of the IRA in the early 1970s.
Israel is in gross breach of the Geneva Convention and is collectively punishing a whole country for the actions of Hezbollah . It is frankly the equivalent of the UK bombing Dublin , Cork and Galway for the actions of the IRA in the early 1970s.
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Oh, for the love of God - no, please!!! I've already been trying to get to sleep for over an hour with no success....
As Maxi Jazz would say - "I can't get no sleep........."
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Kathy
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Evidently, Bush was sat chomping on a bread roll during this conversation with Yo Blair having to stand and lean over his shoulder. I think this speaks volumes about the relationship between these too. The words "puppet" and "strings" so quickly spring to mind. <_<