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don't forget Gareth that the OHR's used when calculating figures are just to find the expected time..its not giving a final rating..this isn't a big issue thats skewing anything. Also a handicapper will put a horse up automatically..without recourse to whether that horse is capable of winning off that higher mark..again ...you are using a ..might be OHR ..against an OHR based on the the form up to that point is.

Future OHR's are no better or worse than using the current one ...its swings and roundabouts....I don't use individual OHR's anyway so this isn't an issue for me anyway..I think its an issue you are over estimating its importance of though.

if on a card you had all handicaps

if the winner in a race is ahead of the handicapper..say..wins by 3 and shows a time that backs it up..you will see it in the bare time figure earned before you assess you going allowance..because the bare rating for that race for the winner will be out of line with the other races..thats why I use the times of the first 4 home to get the allowance..any horse running above its OHR stands out straight off..you don't need the future rating...in fact if you use a future rating you won't even spot the improver in your speed figures as it will show as a par time..but a par time future horse..so you won't realise its ahead of the handicapper as you have it as that par future horse..

As said..I bet other figure makers work of the OHR in the results section.

but..as no one on here wants to discuss how THEY make figures..it won't happen :lol:

Gareth..why don't you take these queries to teh thread I started..its bogging this thread down..I'm sure you will get lots of replies on that other thread

<blockquote data-quote="EC1" data-source="post: 2246816" data-attributes="member: 65360">don&#039;t forget Gareth that the OHR&#039;s used when calculating figures are just to find the expected time..its not giving a final rating..this isn&#039;t a big issue thats skewing anything. Also a handicapper will put a horse up automatically..without recourse to whether that horse is capable of winning off that higher mark..again ...you are using a ..might be OHR ..against an OHR based on the the form up to that point is.&nbsp;Future OHR&#039;s are no better or worse than using the current one ...its swings and roundabouts....I don&#039;t use individual OHR&#039;s anyway so this isn&#039;t an issue for me anyway..I think its an issue you are over estimating its importance of though.&nbsp;if on a card you had all handicaps&nbsp;if the winner in a race is ahead of the handicapper..say..wins by 3 and shows a time that backs it up..you will see it in the bare time figure earned before you assess you going allowance..because the bare rating for that race for the winner will be out of line with the other races..thats why I use the times of the first 4 home to get the allowance..any horse running above its OHR stands out straight off..you don&#039;t need the future rating...in fact if you use a future rating you won&#039;t even spot the improver in your speed figures as it will show as a par time..but a par time future horse..so you won&#039;t realise its ahead of the handicapper as you have it as that par future horse..&nbsp;As said..I bet other figure makers work of the OHR in the results section.&nbsp;but..as no one on here wants to discuss how THEY make figures..it won&#039;t happen :lol:&nbsp;Gareth..why don&#039;t you take these queries to teh thread I started..its bogging this thread down..I&#039;m sure you will get lots of replies on that other thread <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="EC1, post: 2246816, member: 65360"] don't forget Gareth that the OHR's used when calculating figures are just to find the [B]expected [/B]time..its not giving a final rating..this isn't a big issue thats skewing anything. Also a handicapper will put a horse up automatically..without recourse to whether that horse is capable of winning off that higher mark..again ...you are using a ..might be OHR ..against an OHR based on the the form up to that point is. Future OHR's are no better or worse than using the current one ...its swings and roundabouts....I don't use individual OHR's anyway so this isn't an issue for me anyway..I think its an issue you are over estimating its importance of though. if on a card you had all handicaps if the winner in a race is ahead of the handicapper..say..wins by 3 and shows a time that backs it up..you will see it in the bare time figure earned before you assess you going allowance..because the bare rating for that race for the winner will be out of line with the other races..thats why I use the times of the first 4 home to get the allowance..any horse running above its OHR stands out straight off..you don't need the future rating...in fact if you use a future rating you won't even spot the improver in your speed figures as it will show as a par time..but a par time future horse..so you won't realise its ahead of the handicapper as you have it as that par future horse.. As said..I bet other figure makers work of the OHR in the results section. but..as no one on here wants to discuss how THEY make figures..it won't happen :lol: Gareth..why don't you take these queries to teh thread I started..its bogging this thread down..I'm sure you will get lots of replies on that other thread :) [/QUOTE]

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