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Tbf I've tended to spray and pray on big handicaps a bit down the years nowhere near  13 selections but I've made it pay for a while especially when firms had a tendency to bet overbroke on place parts of the bets at the big meets back when it was 1/4 odds and more places. They've tightened up a lot since. But even last year I did some permutations of 8 on the trifecta and landed it to pennies and it only paid about 5/1 on the layout of the bet and in honesty on total layout on the race which was fairly substantial I only really returned double my overall outlay. You look at that you could say waste of time all that to just double your outlay but I'd hit a small permutation there were results if they'd of landed it would of been a game changing amount. I'll quite happily do the same this year knowing that I could get anyone one of the 3 results do my absolute spuds, cover costs plus a bit, or smash the granny out of them. The cover costs there or there abouts is always the likeliest outcome although prior to last year I'd suffered a few wipeouts of epic proportions, the ones that make you say with teary eyes " God, please make that didn't happen"