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I would actually argue that Crisp created a watershed in how the National is run. He proved that you can go a proper gallop in the race and if you stay you have a chance. Crisp's stamina deserted him after the elbow, possibly before, but he did almost enough by then to win.

After that they've generally gone faster throughout. Red Rum had beaten a track record that had stood for 38 years but then Mr Frisk smashed that by miles when the fences were still big. I can't trace - perhaps someone can put me right - any winner of the race since the distance was shortened by a furlong and a half to get close to breaking nine minutes for the race but Mr Frisk clocked 8m 47s for the full trip because he was a superbly efficient jumper and a grand galloper. I still think he is the most impressive ever winner of the race and the fact he followed it up in the Whitbread a couple of weeks later using the same front running tactics spoke volumes for his toughness and soundness.

Obviously the going is a big factor. It was fast the day Mr Frisk won but nowadays there's no chance of the ground being better than good to soft with clerks of courses kowtowing to the welfare nazis. I think it's very unfair that genuinely good ground horses aren't allowed to get their ground in the race. Mr Frisk would probably not have a chance in a modern national.

<blockquote data-quote="Desert Orchid" data-source="post: 2692765" data-attributes="member: 65242">I would actually argue that Crisp created a watershed in how the National is run. He proved that you can go a proper gallop in the race and if you stay you have a chance. Crisp&#039;s stamina deserted him after the elbow, possibly before, but he did almost enough by then to win.After that they&#039;ve generally gone faster throughout. Red Rum had beaten a track record that had stood for 38 years but then Mr Frisk smashed that by miles when the fences were still big. I can&#039;t trace - perhaps someone can put me right - any winner of the race since the distance was shortened by a furlong and a half to get close to breaking nine minutes for the race but Mr Frisk clocked 8m 47s for the full trip because he was a superbly efficient jumper and a grand galloper. I still think he is the most impressive ever winner of the race and the fact he followed it up in the Whitbread a couple of weeks later using the same front running tactics spoke volumes for his toughness and soundness.Obviously the going is a big factor. It was fast the day Mr Frisk won but nowadays there&#039;s no chance of the ground being better than good to soft with clerks of courses kowtowing to the welfare nazis. I think it&#039;s very unfair that genuinely good ground horses aren&#039;t allowed to get their ground in the race. Mr Frisk would probably not have a chance in a modern national.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desert Orchid, post: 2692765, member: 65242"] I would actually argue that Crisp created a watershed in how the National is run. He proved that you can go a proper gallop in the race and if you stay you have a chance. Crisp's stamina deserted him after the elbow, possibly before, but he did almost enough by then to win. After that they've generally gone faster throughout. Red Rum had beaten a track record that had stood for 38 years but then Mr Frisk smashed that by miles when the fences were still big. I can't trace - perhaps someone can put me right - any winner of the race since the distance was shortened by a furlong and a half to get close to breaking nine minutes for the race but Mr Frisk clocked 8m 47s for the full trip because he was a superbly efficient jumper and a grand galloper. I still think he is the most impressive ever winner of the race and the fact he followed it up in the Whitbread a couple of weeks later using the same front running tactics spoke volumes for his toughness and soundness. Obviously the going is a big factor. It was fast the day Mr Frisk won but nowadays there's no chance of the ground being better than good to soft with clerks of courses kowtowing to the welfare nazis. I think it's very unfair that genuinely good ground horses aren't allowed to get their ground in the race. Mr Frisk would probably not have a chance in a modern national. [/QUOTE]

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