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I totally agree with that. To be honest, I think his traffic management was more a case of getting lucky than any wise choices - he simply didn't have any choices down the straight. He went to the only bit of space that enabled him to move forward, which, happily for Manning, whooshed him out to the front.

The main credit Manning shares with the Bolger team is getting him to the start in perfect order.

He is a dream Derby winner though, unlike a few more recent winners, he is one you would probably expect to improve, or at least be equally good, when moved back down to 10 furlongs. [/b]

Well put Mel. I think Manning was lucky, or at least got away with it. He does deserve credit for getting him to post however.

While the jockey was probably lucky to win the horse would have been decidely unlucky to lose.

NA's actual rating for the Derby will probably not set the world alight, but this horse is better than his rating and better at middle distances than a mile (despite what the ratings say for the time being), although I agree 10 furlongs will not disadvantage him in the least.

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<blockquote data-quote="SteveM" data-source="post: 2143979" data-attributes="member: 64943">I totally agree with that. To be honest, I think his traffic management was more a case of getting lucky than any wise choices - he simply didn&#039;t have any choices down the straight. He went to the only bit of space that enabled him to move forward, which, happily for Manning, whooshed him out to the front.The main credit Manning shares with the Bolger team is getting him to the start in perfect order.He is a dream Derby winner though, unlike a few more recent winners, he is one you would probably expect to improve, or at least be equally good, when moved back down to 10 furlongs. [/b]</blockquote>Well put Mel. I think Manning was lucky, or at least got away with it. He does deserve credit for getting him to post however.While the jockey was probably lucky to win the horse would have been decidely unlucky to lose.NA&#039;s actual rating for the Derby will probably not set the world alight, but this horse is better than his rating and better at middle distances than a mile (despite what the ratings say for the time being), although I agree 10 furlongs will not disadvantage him in the least.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="SteveM, post: 2143979, member: 64943"] I totally agree with that. To be honest, I think his traffic management was more a case of getting lucky than any wise choices - he simply didn't have any choices down the straight. He went to the only bit of space that enabled him to move forward, which, happily for Manning, whooshed him out to the front. The main credit Manning shares with the Bolger team is getting him to the start in perfect order. He is a dream Derby winner though, unlike a few more recent winners, he is one you would probably expect to improve, or at least be equally good, when moved back down to 10 furlongs. [/b][/quote] Well put Mel. I think Manning was lucky, or at least got away with it. He does deserve credit for getting him to post however. While the jockey was probably lucky to win the horse would have been decidely unlucky to lose. NA's actual rating for the Derby will probably not set the world alight, but this horse is better than his rating and better at middle distances than a mile (despite what the ratings say for the time being), although I agree 10 furlongs will not disadvantage him in the least. [/QUOTE]

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