The Orange Broadband Prize For Fiction

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Does anyone else think that the idea of an awards ceremony for female authors only is not only sexist but pointless.
This years nominations include the winners of the Booker prize and the Costa (Formally Whitbread) book awards, possibly the ladies don't need their own ceremony as they seem to be doing pretty well anyway
 
Well not really as white artists can win a MOBO but men can't win the Orange prize. I think if a male only prize existed there would be an outcry
 
"Music Of Black Origin" can include whiteys? :eek: How can that possibly be? Why, we'll find out that Ardross is Chair of the Association of Black Lawyers of Britain (ABLOB) next!

Curiously, I've wondered (in the odd idle moment) how come we can have a racially-designated organisation of any sort? It's not by nation, as in the 'Chinese Appreciation Society' might be something open to anyone interested in matters Chinese. It's a distinction by a race's colour alone. So how come we don't have a 'Mixed Race Lawyers Association'? And what is the point of it all?
 
Interesting. I wondered about it the last time the awards came round.

Made me think about an organisation called something like the Association of Black Police Officers. Would an Association of White Police Officers be allowed?
 
Originally posted by krizon@Apr 5 2007, 07:24 PM
"Music Of Black Origin" can include whiteys? :eek: How can that possibly be?
I think the key word is 'Origin' which makes it easily understandable. The Police (the band not the force) were often cited as a 'white reggae' band, presumebly drawing their influences from black musical cultures. It's tenuous though, Paul Simon's later work drew heavily on African percussion. Could Elvis Pressleys gospel stuff not qualify? Indeed there is a theory (not one I'd necessarily like to defend) that all popular music originates from R&B and Jazz etc
 
There was an interesting programme about the origins of American-African line-out singing on telly a few weeks ago. Line-out is where the lead singer in a church choir sings the main line of the song, and then the chorus sings it out after him or her. The documentary makers took an all-white UK church choir (in fact, if memory serves me, they came from a little church in Scotland) over to the USA. There they sang line-out in the usual way, which it was believed that the original settlers had done during their services and which it was felt that Africans, then slaves and stuck at the back of church pews while being Christianized, would have heard and copied. The watching black singers listened with instant recognition of their own delivery, sung by an all-white group. Black gospel line-out was then sung, with this time the Brits amazed at how the chords and cadences synchronized with their own.

The premise of the film was to try to explain where black Gospel had come from, and it seemed to demonstrate its British origins pretty well. So Elvis's Gospel may have had its basis in black American Gospel choirs, but they in turn had based their way of singing on British choristers settling in the New World.

It'd be fairly reasonable to expect that some African slaves would bring tribal drumming skills to America and the Caribbean, even if this was frowned upon by their owners and the Church. There are strong indications that the drumming was toned down in order to be accepted by the whites as less 'savage', and probably that's why slaves began eventually to incorporate non-African instruments into their repertoire, along with traditional clapping, whistles, calabash 'maracas', etc. In order to be allowed to play at all, they had to learn to incorporate their rhythms into something that white folks found acceptable as entertainment.
 
Made me think about an organisation called something like the Association of Black Police Officers. Would an Association of White Police Officers be allowed?

I believe there is an Association of Gay Police Officers.

They had a row with some Christians over an advert they placed in a newspaper last year that took up a large percentage of one nights 'news'
 
It didn't make crude references like 'you should see the size of our truncheons, boys', did it, Uncle G?
 
Oh no, they were taking themselves far too seriously !! It was an important isshoo! ( at that moment in time according to the males involved in the incident)

Todays Pointless Collection Of Words Used To Make The User Sound Intelligent When In Fact Making Them Sound Dense.

'At this moment in time'
 
A favourite of mine, that, along with 'crucial' (on every second page of 'The Remains of the Day', goddammit). Usually accompanied by earnest face-gurning, to imply how 'crucial' are the talks/the timing/the sales target.

Also breaking fast from the stalls are: "At the end of the day" and "at the end of the road", "winding out", "client-centred", "positive feedback" ("good response" having been shot for being too easy to understand), "negatory" and "gifted" as a verb. :rant:
 
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