The Virgin Queen

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Originally posted by The Pro@Jan 22 2006, 07:33 PM
:o Its Fiona from Shameless.
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Just found the trialer and gave it a click, looks good tbh i might have to watch that.
 
Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. I've got a very good mate out here visiting from the UK - been out with her since 5pm so I missed it, absolutely gutted. Was really looking forward to seeing this. Off to cry into my pillow....
 
What did anyone think of this? Watched it tonight & was actually pretty disappointed after looking forward to seeing it. I think Dudley was miscast, and everytime she called him "Robbie" my teeth gnashed together & I groaned! He was her "dear, sweet Robin" and she would never have called him Robbie, it was Robin!

Bits of it were historically incorrect too, which I was very surprised at the BBC for. Amy Robsart was found at the bottom of the flight of some back stairs in the house with her neck broken, not on the floor near the main stairs having jumped off the bannisters. She died in autumn 1560; the programme had Elizabeth sending Robin away from court directly after Amy's death and collapsing whilst doing so as she was suffering from smallpox - she did not have her attack of smallpox until two years later, in autumn 1562. I've no doubt there were other inaccuracies as well - for starters, I'm sure tha Elizabeth originally mooted the idea of Mary QoS marrying Darnley but then went off the idea, before turning against it completely - in the programme it was entirely Mary's idea & Elizabeth hated it from the start. I hope that the following episodes are an improvement - I was thinking of buying the series on DVD when it comes out in 2 weeks (as I missed the first episode) but I'm undecided now! Knowing me, I'm sure I'll change my mind though!

As an aside, it was amusing to see Lucius Vorenus reborn so quickly as the Duke of Norfolk! :lol:
 
Let alone James I from the Mirren version turning up here as the Scottish ambassador . That was a much better production all round both or casting accuracy and acting

You are correct about Darnley I am sure . As for Leicester's wife I thought the questions were murder or accident - not suicide

No not up to scratch - Anne Marie Duff is miscast , despite the wooden nature of the sets in the old days it is not a patch on the Glenda Jackson series from 1971 .
 
Elizabeth I suffered a life-threatening bout of smallpox in October 1562.

James - you're right, the questions were only ever accident or murder; the more popular theory amonsgt the Elizabethan court being that Dudley murdered her. Personally, I am not so sure that is the case as although he was a lot of things I don't think he would have gone that far. Of course she may well have committed suicide as it was well known that she was very miserable that her husband was seemingly in love with the Queen & pined for him, as well as being very sick with what is now thought to be breast cancer. As she urged all her staff to go to the local fair which was when she died, this raises a lot of questions, although a theory put forward is that Dudley wrote her a letter telling her to send the staff away as he was going to visit her. Whatever - she was found at the bottom of a back flight of stairs, not by the main stairs, clearly having jumped!

I agree that the Ch4 Mirren version was a lot better, although in parts Anne Marie Duff is good, trouble is, I find bits of it patchy.
 
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