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Ardross

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Old names reused again today - they will hope this two year old will have the talent without the malice of Steve Nesbitt's mad old sprinter of the 1970s !

For you youngsters

Ubedizzy, Steve Nesbitt's best and most notorious horse, was a high-class sprinter who won the William Hill Trophy at York in 1976, and was fourth in the Nunthorpe in 1977 and second (to Boldboy) in the Abernant Stakes at Newmarket in 1978.

Ubedizzy became savage, and in the unsaddling enclosure after the Abernant he knelt on his groom and started to eat him. He was not allowed to run again in Britain and was sold to race in Sweden, where he became champion sprinter.
 
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His groom was current trainer Andy Crook, who still has the battle scars (Ubedizzy bit off half his thumb).
 
I remember ubedizzy. Unpleasant to see names reused. Recently there's been a Homeric, King Midas, Pelerin ( nice win for me yesterday;)) among others. History doesn't exist anymore.
 
There is a 25 year rule is there not ?
Also the greats cannot be reused.
To reuse the name of a dodge pot is always dangerous: I would be in no rush to re use names of repeat refusers like Battle Group, Levaramoss or Espartano !
It must have been the punk era but Marinsky of MV O Briens was a savage at much the same time, having savaged Relkino in 77 Diomed Stakes and Gentilhombre in 77 July Cup.
Orchestra another rename at the moment of Aiden's.
We have a thread here some where on recycled names.
 
3.2 Where the name was registered to a brood mare, the relevant year is whichever of the following first occurs

3.2.1 10 years after the mare's death,
3.2.2 10 years after the last recorded year in which the mare was covered or produced a foal, or
3.2.3 when the mare attains 30 years of age.
3.3 Where the name was registered to a stallion, the relevant year is whichever of the following first occurs

3.3.1 15 years after the stallion's death,
3.3.2 15 years after the last recorded year in which the stallion covered one or more mares, or
3.3.3 the year when the stallion attains 35 years of age.
3.4 Where the name was registered to any other horse, the relevant year is whichever of the following first occurs

3.4.1 5 years after the horse's death, or
3.4.2 the year when the horse attains 20 years of age.
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birdsnest said:
Yes Oppenheimer horse, forgot he was 4th in the Derby, thought he was unplaced. Always liked the Wragg horses.
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He also won the Hardwicke as a 4 yo beating Leger winner Light Cavalry and Lester - race can be found on You Tube.
 
There are also rules barring the re-use domestically of the names of winners of the Classics, the Grand National, Cheltenham Gold Cup and other big races, plus names which are deemed to be "significant" (I can't remember the official phrase, sorry) but an example of the latter is Persian Punch.

That doesn't preclude e.g. a French- or American-bred being registered with the same name as a Derby winner or whatever, but there would never be another British or Irish bred horse with those names.

There is a surprisingly small number of internationally-protected races, of which the only UK race is the King George at Ascot. They tend to be the premier all-aged middle distance group 1 of the major racing nations, so winners of the Arc are internationally protected.
 
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Ardross said:
Old names reused again today - they will hope this two year old will have the talent without the malice of Steve Nesbitt's mad old sprinter of the 1970s !

For you youngsters

Ubedizzy, Steve Nesbitt's best and most notorious horse, was a high-class sprinter who won the William Hill Trophy at York in 1976, and was fourth in the Nunthorpe in 1977 and second (to Boldboy) in the Abernant Stakes at Newmarket in 1978.

Ubedizzy became savage, and in the unsaddling enclosure after the Abernant he knelt on his groom and started to eat him. He was not allowed to run again in Britain and was sold to race in Sweden, where he became champion sprinter.
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Do you know UBERDIZZY silk colours
 
SPIKE JONES said:
Do you know UBERDIZZY silk colours
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The original one? His were pink with either a purple or green ( hard to tell on the video I just saw!) in the UK - the foreign pictures were all black and white, so I can’t see what they were once he sold abroad.
The new one looks to be black with an orange cross :)
 
Bassenthwaite ran in the First at Ascot yesterday -I have happy memories of the original Bassenthwaite ridden b y Pat Eddery being beaten by Local Suitor in the Mill Reef at Newbury.At the time I thought Willie Carson was God.
 
There were some great rogues back in the 1970's .......... the hurdler Levaramoss was a favourite of mine, pretty sure he beat the Josh Gifford trained Kybo one day who was a high class hurdler. Levaramoss often refused to race and eventually banned, ended up Pointing under the name of Max and go banned again.
 
Moonax was a favourite of mine.
Backed him on his debut at York when he was expected to run a big race but became unruly and was withdrawn.
Very talented classic winner for me at 33/1 but unfortunately developed a penchant for biting anyone or anything in his vicinity.
 
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Moonax was a favourite of mine.
Backed him on his debut at York when he was expected to run a big race but became unruly and was withdrawn.
Very talented classic winner for me at 33/1 but unfortunately developed a penchant for biting anyone or anything in his vicinity.
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Got beaten at odds on in a Huntingdon Novice Hurdle under Richard Dunwoody
 
I was at York in 1982 when Gorytus hammered Salieri by seven in the Acomb.

I was stood on the rail away from the crowd not far off the furlong marker - I can still see it in my mind's eye now.

Anyway, local legendary independent bookmaker Jack Ferens in Hull was offering 14/1 for the 2,000 Guineas and 33/1 for The Derby and, given the time, I took both.

I then saw him destroy Proclaim by five in the Champagne Stakes at Doncaster and had backed him at 8/11 to more then recover all the ante-post stakes.

I was on very good terms with myself until....THAT Dewhurst.

Richard Baerlein went to his grave swearing Gorytus was got at that day - he was certainly never the same again.

To add insult to injury, some other beast got given the same name a few years ago.
 
Carson didn't - he thought Gorytus was soft . He was receiving a lot of weight from Salieri at York and when the Racetech ? video appeared on YT a few years back - the winning distance was exaggerated by Piggott easing Salieri.
 
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