Violence at English Race Meetings

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I note with interest a recent tendency for group violence to break out at English race meetings. (ref Goodwood, Ascot.)
The protagonists, in the main, seem to be well presented young men apparently with some pent up aggression to dissipate.

Can anybody help me understand why gangs of young men want to beat the sh!t out of each other at the gee gees?
 
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Because they're arseholes trying to act laddish and it gets out of hand.

Maybe someone just tells them straight, a suit out of Next will never look good on them or anybody. If they want to look smart they need to go to a proper tailor.

Seriously, though, I'm sure a psychiatrist would have a field day with this one. They're surrounded by tarts who dress like they're going to My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding and they want to impress. They're like deer banging their antlers off each other to get to bang the tarts.
 
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It's been suggested that rival football fans, tanked up and after a sniff of the white stuff in the cubicles as well, are quite often the instigators. It's not a new thing, there was a set to at Newbury quite a while back where rival Cardiff and Swansea fans were the root cause. It's just a reflection of society today I'm afraid and older gentleman dressed as security guards are no deterrent. Racecourses are making a decent profit from alcohol sales and seem not to care about the reputation racing is quickly acquiring.

I don't think anyone will solve this problem in the near future.
 
Diamond Geezer said:
It's been suggested that rival football fans, tanked up and after a sniff of the white stuff in the cubicles as well, are quite often the instigators. It's not a new thing, there was a set to at Newbury quite a while back where rival Cardiff and Swansea fans were the root cause. It's just a reflection of society today I'm afraid and older gentleman dressed as security guards are no deterrent. Racecourses are making a decent profit from alcohol sales and seem not to care about the reputation racing is quickly acquiring.

I don't think anyone will solve this problem in the near future.
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pretty much the way i see it. word for word.

talk of increased police security at racedays and sniffer dogs. will racecourses fork out for this kind of security though? i'm not convinced.

it's a sad state of affairs.
 
Just a new place for the football idiots to hang out,that moron tommy robinson was at ascot or goodwood a while back,can only get worse and worse especially if they are the ones already banned from football grounds,it's an easy meet up [point plenty of venues the shape of things to come..good if you want an overpriced bag of Charlie no doubt..:rolleyes:
 
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When all the urinals are free and all the cubicles are taken you know it's the white stuff involved.
Sniffer dogs would work.
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apparently some places are already using sniffer dogs. can't see i've seen any at a raceday myself yet.

what i heard was they only use them to check bags though and not pockets so pretty much a pointless exercise atm.
 
Seems to be mainly a southern thing at the moment. You can certainly see a problem at Newbury. Coach parties from the London area and South Wales have been using it as a neutral venue for thirty years or more.

Maybe it will give some courses pause for thought about these after racing events that they push so hard.
 
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There were sniffer dogs at Ascot on Friday evening, but not sure they were sniffing for and they did not come anywhere near me...

The white stuff is definitely a major factor, plus stewards are either students on £5p/h or the bowler hat brigade. Both quite rightly should not be getting involved in brawls. The racecourse need to be paying for additional policing and proper security if they want to promote it as a party

you will not see me any where a UK racecourse on a Saturday this summer...
 
My experience of the bowler-hat-brigade at Ascot is that they are a bunch of snobby, officious little jobsworths who seem to think their bowler hat makes them in some way superior. They do nothing to improve the race-day experience of the paying customer.
 
Lingfield has been known to have stewards / private security... patrolling Saturday nights... it kicks off regular .. but the security has done fcuk all . when i,ve been there ... ..........with Tommy :lol:
 
Is it definitely a new phenomenon or has social media publicised it?

Also, is it pre organised or just a bunch of mindless goons v likewise

Hopefully this doesn't count as me posting on the flat.
 
Coincidentally as this thread was being posted yesterday, there was a documentary (on C5 I think ) about the GWR company and it showed trains from London heading for the Cheltenham Festival with a high percentage of passengers getting tanked up en route to the races and therein is another factor.
 
It's, at the very least, a bandwagon bungee by the RP.

We should all be very concerned that the likes of ozgood seem to think it's appropriate behaviour though and there has to be a chance that certain groups will look to establish their credentials through the summer. Might be nice if some of the snobbier courses realise that a jacket and tie isn't always the route to respectability. There are still courses in the UK that make owners buy a tie to gain entrance to the owners/trainers area when they have a runner.

As I said before, anything other than alcohol is likely to be confined to south of Birmingham as the white powder of choice further north is Johnson's Baby.
 
I took the train to/fro Bristol at this years festival. I will walk barefooted next year rather than repeat. At least that way I might get home without a suited feral lout puking on my shoes and then erupting with the hilarity of it all.
 
Coke goes hand in hand with the football idiots,doesn't matter what part of the country it is I stopped going out 8 years ago before coming ill and the same old faces blokes in their 50s football idiots banned from the grounds were still caning the Charlie,most of the dealers are in the football idiots as well it all goes hand in hand the coke thing has been a massive escalating thing for 15-20 years bigger than ever now.. They don't take it to have fun,they take it to get slaughtered and cause trouble it's alpart of the night out to cause as much havoc as possible,if they can give some innocemt bystander a good kicking then it's been a good night..wankers of the highest order..
 
Desert Orchid said:
My experience of the bowler-hat-brigade at Ascot is that they are a bunch of snobby, officious little jobsworths who seem to think their bowler hat makes them in some way superior. They do nothing to improve the race-day experience of the paying customer.
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That's not my experience of the majority of them; it's the racecourse who are the jobsworth. However, in the event of anything kicking off they are no help whatsoever, which perhaps should be re-thought.
 
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