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granger
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19%.. thats wuite low is it not
Sheikh
At the Start
The Portugese tipple every day, how come they don't have a rep !
It's about binge drinking, not the daily consumption of a glass or two with meals, as most Europeans have sensibly done since childhood. French, Spanish and Italian kids learn that a little light wine doesn't kill you and they build up an interest in drinking the stuff, rather than just going at it like madmen (and women) as seems to be the fashion in the UK. They drink to enjoy the alcohol as an adjunct to a meal, not as a means to falling down snockered in the street or waking up with a pig's head snoring next to them in bed the next day.
Sheikh
At the Start
5-6 drinks is not binge drinking. That's having a drink.
5-6 drinks of what proof, over what period of time? 5-6 drinks over the course of a party that lasts for several hours, with food, isn't too bad. 5-6 drinks every night, you're a pisshead.
The notion of 'drinking' as against 'getting ratarsed' is that in the first instance, drink is enjoyable, but mainly an adjunct to something else - like a nice meal, a party, or a relaxing evening in. Getting ratarsed isn't about appreciating the drink - it's about using it to just get off your face. If you need to get off your face regularly, you've got problems, and the drink is going to be one more on top of them.
The notion of 'drinking' as against 'getting ratarsed' is that in the first instance, drink is enjoyable, but mainly an adjunct to something else - like a nice meal, a party, or a relaxing evening in. Getting ratarsed isn't about appreciating the drink - it's about using it to just get off your face. If you need to get off your face regularly, you've got problems, and the drink is going to be one more on top of them.
Sheikh
At the Start
Well, that's every party busted, then! 
I don't think that the consumption of, say, a cocktail or sherry before dinner, two glasses of wine with the meal, a liqueur afterwards, and a nightcap would've been considered 'bingeing' by the old Victorians! That'd be pretty much the norm in upper-class households. I think it's all about context: 5-6 drinks just ripped off could be a bit of a binge. 5-6 drinks, taken in the context of several hours, sociability, food, etc., is not my idea of binge drinking. But if you didn't drink all month, went to one party and sank six halves of lager in the space of five hours, I'd hardly count that as being a binge, either. Just saying 5-6 'drinks' is silly. 5-6 bottles, even - because 5-6 bottles of shandy is a lot different from 5-6 bottles of Absolut! 
I don't think that the consumption of, say, a cocktail or sherry before dinner, two glasses of wine with the meal, a liqueur afterwards, and a nightcap would've been considered 'bingeing' by the old Victorians! That'd be pretty much the norm in upper-class households. I think it's all about context: 5-6 drinks just ripped off could be a bit of a binge. 5-6 drinks, taken in the context of several hours, sociability, food, etc., is not my idea of binge drinking. But if you didn't drink all month, went to one party and sank six halves of lager in the space of five hours, I'd hardly count that as being a binge, either. Just saying 5-6 'drinks' is silly. 5-6 bottles, even - because 5-6 bottles of shandy is a lot different from 5-6 bottles of Absolut!