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Merlin the Magician

Merlin the Magician

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LONDON (Reuters) - Junk food high in fat, salt or sugar is to be banned in schools within a year, Education Secretary Ruth Kelly announced on Wednesday after a high profile campaign by celebrity chef Jamie Oliver.

Kelly, speaking to the BBC and Sky News, said she would give details of the ban during her speech at the Labour Party conference in Brighton.

"Teachers know that eating well at school encourages good behaviour and children getting better results," she told Sky News.

The debate over healthier school meals became a big issue during the May election after Oliver made a television series in which he tried to feed children on the government's budget.

The star of the hit cooking show "The Naked Chef" appeared visibly shocked in the programme when confronted by such modern-day school staples as the "Turkey Twizzler" which he labelled "processed junk".

The government responded by announcing an extra 280 million pounds to be spent on school food over the next three years.

"What Jamie has done is really, really good because it's raised the profile of how important it is for children to eat healthily," Kelly said.

"We can use that public mood to make a transformation in the quality of food that is served that is in the interest of children."

Kelly said school governors would have a responsibility for the food they served and said Ofsted inspectors would check it.
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WHAT A LOAD OF BALLS

Whatabout the pupils that leave the school to go to the local chippy and disrupt all the neighbours with their antics stone throwing creating a mess with the papers cartons etc

The school that causes all the bother out of the 4 in the area is a comprehensive mixed school of the 800 pupils there, I would estimate a lot more than half pass my house to go to the chippy for junk food every school day then on return followed up the road with the seagulls swooping on the cast off chips pies pasties etc etc

Can a goverment be this gullable why dont they at first sort out the others just like the U S A no kids are allowed out once in the schools, until the end of the day....

:o "Teachers know that eating well at school encourages good behaviour and children getting better results," she told Sky News. :o

They let the primary kids out of another school early because they get disruptive in the afternoon, that's what I was told when I inquired about it to the caretaker the other day nothing to do with BST or the like........its a norm now every day of the year.....
 
That’s not the point I am making Brian its the fact that these kids can come out and go to the chippy so how is the policy she is on about going to come to fruition ....

No doubt after this E-COLI epidemic that is sweeping the valleys a lot more kids wont be having meals in school as this is where it was sourced from a supplier of cooked meats to the schools............. :o

I mentioned the states with regards their schooling not their eating habits.....
 
Am I missing something, or is there a massive non-sequitur about halfway through Merlin's post?
 
Following on the Healthy heating debate.





Recently, I've heard that eating whole eggs is healthier than eating egg whites or fat-free substitutes. But, traditional wisdom seems to suggest that eggs are bad, so I'm confused. Can you explain?

Eggs are one of nature's near-perfect foods. They contain an easily digestible form of protein, plus loads of other valuable compounds and nutrients. With rare exceptions, there isn't any reason to avoid them, despite what you may have heard.
The reasons dietitians and traditional medical experts have recommended avoiding eggs in the past is because of two substances in eggs that continue to suffer from a terrible reputation: cholesterol and fat. Fat is a subject worth a column all its own, so we'll save that for another time. Right now, let's look closely at cholesterol.

Cholesterol is crucial for every cell in the body, and around 80 percent of cholesterol in the body is produced by the body itself, regardless of how much of it you eat or don't eat.

Most of your body's cholesterol is found within the cells, where it has all kinds of positive effects. Only about 7 percent of the body's store of cholesterol is in the blood, and even then it doesn't do any real damage until it oxidises and begins to stick to our arterial walls. Nature, in her infinite wisdom, also created the egg complete with its own built-in antioxidant. It's called lecithin, and it helps prevent egg cholesterol from becoming a problem. Interestingly, lecithin is found in the yolk, which many people mistakenly discard because it contains cholesterol.

The real point is this: Dietary cholesterol has virtually no effect on serum cholesterol (in our blood). Even Dr. Ancel Keys, author of the famous 'Seven Countries' study that gave rise to the whole fat/cholesterol/heart disease madness in the first place, has said: 'There's no connection whatsoever between cholesterol in food and cholesterol in the blood. None. And we've known that all along.'
 
Gareth the other parts regards mess and trouble I have posted on here several times over these last few years... so obviouly being a relative newby you would not be aware of them....

but I was also pointing out that junk food as stated supposed to cause the pupils to play up...............

They let the primary kids out of another school early because they get disruptive in the afternoon, that's what I was told when I inquired about it to the caretaker the other day nothing to do with BST or the like........its a norm now every day of the year.....



"Teachers know that eating well at school encourages good behaviour and children getting better results," she told Sky News.

but how can they if they all or most use the local chippy etc :rolleyes:
 
That’s not the point I am making Brian its the fact that these kids can come out and go to the chippy so how is the policy she is on about going to come to fruition ....
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Merlin - not every school is situated next door to fish and chip shops ! And as these kids you refer to are behaving in this way anyway, what difference will removing the vending machines make - other than to remove a prime target for vandalism...

In my view it's an excellent start and all credit to Kelly for initiating this.

Now they need to make all schools secure during kid's recreational periods so they can't bunk off . What te kids do on their way home is down to their parents, not the school...
 
Originally posted by Merlin the Magician@Sep 28 2005, 03:22 PM
"Teachers know that eating well at school encourages good behaviour and children getting better results," she told Sky News.

but how can they if they all or most use the local chippy etc :rolleyes:
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t's quite possible that the study involved more than just that school
 
Merlin, I guess I just don't understand how you can consider the banning of junk food in schools to be something other than good news? It obviously won't stop kids going to the chippers if they can, but that's really an entirely seperate problem. I'm all for healthy debate about government policies, but I just can't understand how this particular one can be criticised based on its own merits.
 
I don't think this school was ever considered Brian and its more the norm than the abnormal in this neck of the woods ...... the Urban Jungle.... its a major problem in all areas here with regards kids in their lunch break playing up ........in most areas of the city.....

And yes Jules I agree/conceed that point I was saying about lunch break not going home time............
 
The only schools which can ensure that kids don't go to the chippy etc. are those with a policy of not allowing pupils to leave the premises at any time of the day, including lunchtime (they do exist).

However, in banning junk food a school would at least be sending out a strong message to the pupils and this initiative has a long-term aim. It is not geared towards an overnight solution. It will be backed up in PSHE classes as well as in school literature and it is to be hoped the message will gradually get through in the same way as the anti-smoking message has pretty much got through to the general public.

Much will depend on the follow-through adopted by school managers but it simply has to be seen as a step in the right direction.
 
There is the germ of an idea here - perhaps the vending machines that currently serve sugary drinks and salty, fatty foods could be converted to dispense the hard drugs that Bobbyjo wants?
 
In the 1940s and 50s.We as kids.Walked or ran to School,had lessons,then a break and played Rugby,had some more lessons,broke up for dinner had a butty and then played Rugby,had more lessons and ran or walked home.Had another butty,wentt out and played rugby or cricket or Knock Knock,run away until it was time for tea.After tea we had a chat and went to bed.I can't remember a fat child.

Now,at sixty six.i am around 100 kilos,5 kilos more than when i left the Military.

My shape is a little different,more like a pear,but wtf,i am happy.
 
Pupils at my school get 35 minutes for lunch whoch does not allow them time to leave the site. This is for 2 reasons - to stop the neighbourhood getting any worse and to try and help their diets as the vending machines sell fruit, snack a jacks and milk instead of crisps.
 
I took 'school dinners' as a kid and generally enjoyed them. Chips were only on the menu once per week at the very most and the standard meal was meat with mashed potatoes and a veg. Pudding varied: custard, tapioca (yummy), semolina, rice pudding with a cake of some sort.

I did go through a spell of 'going down the town' for junk food but realised school meals were cheaper, more varied, better for me and more comfortable to eat (being able to sit at a table instead of ambling along the High Street).

I reckon it would take a while, but if schools simply put on quality food at affordable prices - which might necessitate subsidising it - a majority of kids will opt for it.
 
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