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I'm getting very mixed messages from last Saturday's Sandown card.

As I said at the time, City Of Troy's Eclipse did not compare at all well with the other two CD races, both handicaps and both won by 3yos.

Relative to their respective ORs, Blake's race works out by far the fastest.

But the intriguing thing is how much slower the two handicaps make the rest of the card look (leaving aside the 5f race on the diagonal track).

Rather than go through my own figures (which would take too long to explain) these are the Topspeed figures for the card winners compared to their ORs. The broad picture reflects my own ratings:

Horse / OR / TS

Swindon / 84 / 31
Cicero's Gift / 107 / 40
Spiritual / 97 / 54
COT / 124 / 88
Blake / 79 / 84
Persica / 100 / 91

When I did my time analysis of the card the way I usually do, in order to get the time ratings to tie in with the form ratings I found I had to go with a going allowance that pointed to FAST ground, which flies totally in the face of everything we saw unfold before our eyes.

Is it at all possible that the start of the 1m2f races was mis-positioned? I suppose that might be humanly possible but by at least 80 yards???

<blockquote data-quote="Desert Orchid" data-source="post: 2681982" data-attributes="member: 65242">I&#039;m getting very mixed messages from last Saturday&#039;s Sandown card.As I said at the time, City Of Troy&#039;s Eclipse did not compare at all well with the other two CD races, both handicaps and both won by 3yos.Relative to their respective ORs, Blake&#039;s race works out by far the fastest. But the intriguing thing is how much slower the two handicaps make the rest of the card look (leaving aside the 5f race on the diagonal track). Rather than go through my own figures (which would take too long to explain) these are the Topspeed figures for the card winners compared to their ORs. The broad picture reflects my own ratings:Horse / OR / TSSwindon / 84 / 31Cicero&#039;s Gift / 107 / 40Spiritual / 97 / 54 COT / 124 / 88Blake / 79 / 84 Persica / 100 / 91When I did my time analysis of the card the way I usually do, in order to get the time ratings to tie in with the form ratings I found I had to go with a going allowance that pointed to FAST ground, which flies totally in the face of everything we saw unfold before our eyes.Is it at all possible that the start of the 1m2f races was mis-positioned? I suppose that might be humanly possible but by at least 80 yards???</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desert Orchid, post: 2681982, member: 65242"] I'm getting very mixed messages from last Saturday's Sandown card. As I said at the time, City Of Troy's Eclipse did not compare at all well with the other two CD races, both handicaps and both won by 3yos. Relative to their respective ORs, Blake's race works out by far the fastest. But the intriguing thing is how much slower the two handicaps make the rest of the card look (leaving aside the 5f race on the diagonal track). Rather than go through my own figures (which would take too long to explain) these are the Topspeed figures for the card winners compared to their ORs. The broad picture reflects my own ratings: Horse / OR / TS Swindon / 84 / 31 Cicero's Gift / 107 / 40 Spiritual / 97 / 54 COT / 124 / 88 Blake / 79 / 84 Persica / 100 / 91 When I did my time analysis of the card the way I usually do, in order to get the time ratings to tie in with the form ratings I found I had to go with a going allowance that pointed to FAST ground, which flies totally in the face of everything we saw unfold before our eyes. Is it at all possible that the start of the 1m2f races was mis-positioned? I suppose that might be humanly possible but by at least 80 yards??? [/QUOTE]

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