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Oh please, Warbler, I even quoted your "truly run 3 miles"!!!! Don't patronise me with bollocks about reading the bits I want to read.

I still disagree, no matter how you dress it up with caveats such as "a truly run 3 miles". As I said before, we are not talking about a selling hurdle at Plumpton and a horse does not win the Stayers' Hurdle without staying the trip, not least as it is run at Cheltenham, one of the stiffest tracks in the country. That's completely aside from the fact that most 3m hurdlers will want 3 1/2-4m [at least!!!!!!!] when sent over fences, which buggers up your argument entirely!

Besides which, from your initial comments one would easily assume you were basing at least part of your non-staying argument on yesterday's race going on the following quote [bear in mind this was posted after, not before the KG]

"I've given it a bit of thought as I had high hopes for him this season, and my simple conclusion is that he doesn't stay 3 miles, and never did"

<blockquote data-quote="Shadow Leader" data-source="post: 2128289" data-attributes="member: 65043">Oh please, Warbler, I even quoted your &quot;truly run 3 miles&quot;!!!!&nbsp; Don&#039;t patronise me with bollocks about reading the bits I want to read.I still disagree, no matter how you dress it up with caveats such as &quot;a truly run 3 miles&quot;.&nbsp; As I said before, we are not talking about a selling hurdle at Plumpton and a horse does not win the Stayers&#039; Hurdle without staying the trip, not least as it is run at Cheltenham, one of the stiffest tracks in the country.&nbsp; That&#039;s completely aside from the fact that most 3m hurdlers will want 3 1/2-4m [at least!!!!!!!] when sent over fences, which buggers up your argument entirely! Besides which, from your initial comments one would easily assume you were basing at least part of your non-staying argument on yesterday&#039;s race going on the following quote [bear in mind this was posted after, not before the KG] &quot;I&#039;ve given it a bit of thought as I had high hopes for him this season, and my simple conclusion is that he doesn&#039;t stay 3 miles, and never did&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shadow Leader, post: 2128289, member: 65043"] Oh please, Warbler, I even quoted your "truly run 3 miles"!!!! Don't patronise me with bollocks about reading the bits I want to read. I still disagree, no matter how you dress it up with caveats such as "a truly run 3 miles". As I said before, we are not talking about a selling hurdle at Plumpton and a horse does not win the Stayers' Hurdle without staying the trip, not least as it is run at Cheltenham, one of the stiffest tracks in the country. That's completely aside from the fact that most 3m hurdlers will want 3 1/2-4m [at least!!!!!!!] when sent over fences, which buggers up your argument entirely! Besides which, from your initial comments one would easily assume you were basing at least part of your non-staying argument on yesterday's race going on the following quote [bear in mind this was posted after, not before the KG] "I've given it a bit of thought as I had high hopes for him this season, and my simple conclusion is that he doesn't stay 3 miles, and never did" [/QUOTE]

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