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Another one whose missing the point.

Leeds United have the best record in the football league, does that make Leeds the best team in the country? It's why I used the phrase;

"In the Kingdom of the blind, the one eyed womens Queen" (elsewhere in the Long walk thread)

How do you know these are grade 1 horses? Because the HRA says they are? The stopwatch (which is neutral and confirms the grade 1 assignations in all other divisions, with a possible bit of a small slip in staying novice chases) says they aren't. If it were wrong, and the class par method so badly flawed, it would show up across all the divisions and appear random. The simple fact is that it doesn't. It picks out the same division year after year, and rates it more or less at the same percentage below true grade 1 pace, year after year too.

I for one, have long wanted to know what would happen if a staying hurdler (or to make it work pragmatically you'd probably need 3 or 4 to avoid the phenonemon of a pace setter and a peloton etc) set out to run a grade 1 time from when the tapes went up?

The name Lough Derg looms up foremost in my mind (and he didn't run a grade 1 time either) but was faster than most staying hurdlers

<blockquote data-quote="Warbler" data-source="post: 2128293" data-attributes="member: 65228">Another one whose missing the point.Leeds United have the best record in the football league, does that make Leeds the best team in the country? It&#039;s why I used the phrase;&quot;In the Kingdom of the blind, the one eyed womens Queen&quot; (elsewhere in the Long walk thread)How do you know these are grade 1 horses? Because the HRA says they are? The stopwatch (which is neutral and confirms the grade 1 assignations in all other divisions, with a possible bit of a small slip in staying novice chases) says they aren&#039;t. If it were wrong, and the class par method so badly flawed, it would show up across all the divisions and appear random. The simple fact is that it doesn&#039;t. It picks out the same division year after year, and rates it more or less at the same percentage below true grade 1 pace, year after year too.I for one, have long wanted to know what would happen if a staying hurdler (or to make it work pragmatically you&#039;d probably need 3 or 4 to avoid the phenonemon of a pace setter and a peloton etc) set out to run a grade 1 time from when the tapes went up?The name Lough Derg looms up foremost in my mind (and he didn&#039;t run a grade 1 time either) but was faster than most staying hurdlers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbler, post: 2128293, member: 65228"] Another one whose missing the point. Leeds United have the best record in the football league, does that make Leeds the best team in the country? It's why I used the phrase; "In the Kingdom of the blind, the one eyed womens Queen" (elsewhere in the Long walk thread) How do you know these are grade 1 horses? Because the HRA says they are? The stopwatch (which is neutral and confirms the grade 1 assignations in all other divisions, with a possible bit of a small slip in staying novice chases) says they aren't. If it were wrong, and the class par method so badly flawed, it would show up across all the divisions and appear random. The simple fact is that it doesn't. It picks out the same division year after year, and rates it more or less at the same percentage below true grade 1 pace, year after year too. I for one, have long wanted to know what would happen if a staying hurdler (or to make it work pragmatically you'd probably need 3 or 4 to avoid the phenonemon of a pace setter and a peloton etc) set out to run a grade 1 time from when the tapes went up? The name Lough Derg looms up foremost in my mind (and he didn't run a grade 1 time either) but was faster than most staying hurdlers [/QUOTE]

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