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BrianH

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....unless you take the Burnley Express, the Burnley Citizen, the Lancashire Telegraph, or today's Guardian, where the Diary reports the case.

Robert Cottage, who stood unsuccessfully as a BNP candidate in the Colne council elections last May and David Jackson, a retired dentist, appeared before magistrates last week accused of "possesing the largest amount of chemical explosives of its type ever found in Britain". A total of 22 chemical components were recovered from their homes, as well as rocket launchers, a nuclear/biological protection suit and BNP literature.

There has been no mention of this in any other media and unless I was away racing and missed it neither Mr Tony nor John Reid has been on our television screens to tell us about this new threat to Britain's security.

I guess that Messrs Cottage and Jackson wear neither beards nor turbans.
 
Originally posted by BrianH@Oct 13 2006, 12:47 PM
....unless you take the Burnley Express, the Burnley Citizen, the Lancashire Telegraph, or today's Guardian, where the Diary reports the case.

Robert Cottage, who stood unsuccessfully as a BNP candidate in the Colne council elections last May and David Jackson, a retired dentist, appeared before magistrates last week accused of "possesing the largest amount of chemical explosives of its type ever found in Britain". A total of 22 chemical components were recovered from their homes, as well as rocket launchers, a nuclear/biological protection suit and BNP literature.

There has been no mention of this in any other media and unless I was away racing and missed it neither Mr Tony nor John Reid has been on our television screens to tell us about this new threat to Britain's security.

I guess that Messrs Cottage and Jackson wear neither beards nor turbans.
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Surely you don't believe that a politician could be a threat to the nation's security ?
 
Blokes a nutter and good riddance but whats the point (i can guess) that you are trying to make?
 
You don't have to guess, I'll spell it out for you. Perhaps you will then be able to explain it to us? How come there are dawn raids on homes (some of which prove to have ben incorectly made) which seem to be accompanied by half of what used to be called Fleet Street and by television crews from most news stations, when in this instance a find of the "largest amount of chemical explosive of its type" and rocket launchers goes unreported nationally?
 
Amazing. Amazing the men could accrue such stuff and amazing that it's not national headline material. Amazing that there hasn't been a whisper on tv, let alone lengthy footage showing police removing the offending materials, with accompanying commentary.

So, what were they going to blow up? Mosques and Islamic schools? Burnley Town Council's offices? Parliament? It sounds a bit heavy-handed for the eradication of moles down the allotments.
 
This is a good article from Crikey website in Australia.

Some terrorists get all the attention

Date: Wednesday, 11 October 2006

From Guy Rundle in London:

Britain is in uproar today after the discovery of what is alleged to be the largest ever suburban home-made explosives factory in a suburban Lancashire house, and the charging of a member of an extremist group with a variety of offences.

Whoops, sorry, no it’s not. Because the extremist group in question was not Islamic, it was the British National Party, and the former member, Robert Cottage, is a white Anglo-Saxon.

Nothing could better indicate the degree to which the "war on terror" is about anything else other than actual risk to life and limb than the treatment of this story. If the police are right, then Cottage was further along the way towards creating actual mayhem than the various Muslims who have been arrested or detained without trial for preaching violence and hate.

Indeed, the arrest would seem to indicate the racist nature of "branded" crimes such as anti-terror laws, since Cottage has merely been charged with offences under the Explosives Act.

Right-wing nutter terrorists tend to be angry loners: they’re sort of celebrity bloggers with access to fertiliser. Thus there is usually no terrorist conspiracy, because they have no-one to conspire with.

Yet the last London mad-bomber – neo-Nazi David Copeland, who nail-bombed the Admiral Duncan and two other pubs in 1999 – caused far more genuine fear than all these alleged Islamist plots in the alleged "pre-planning" (ie coffee-shop bullsh-t) stage.

Copeland "only" killed three people (and maimed about a dozen more) but not for want of trying – the blast of the last bomb he placed was blocked by a pillar. Targeting places where gay, black and Asian people hang out – ie inner-city pubs with good music and food – he was charged simply with murder. As he should have been. There’s absolutely no reason to have the word "terrorism" appear in the criminal code at all – murder, or conspiracy to commit is perfectly adequate to cover all such events, unless your purpose is political rather than legal.

Should there be the tragedy of another neo-Nazi bombing sometime in the future, one good result of it will be a refocusing on the real roots of current terrorism of all stripes: modern western anomie, attaching itself to a political cause.

Meanwhile see tomorrow’s Australian for an exclusive on al-Qaeda’s plan to attack the quarter final of the Footscray-Newport Trugo league – a game in which both men and women brazenly wave their rear ends at each other, while hitting rubber discs with a mallet, and by which Osama himself has been greatly angered, according to a man the Oz’s news team met in a pub car park, while buying cheap speakers from the back of a van. It’s just another in the wave of suicide attacks being perpetrated by The Australian on its own credibility.
 
Good stuff, Phil. Say 'Copeland' and most people would go 'who?', such is the ease with which we can forget WHO was behind some wicked atrocities on the British mainland. White guys, mostly Christians, all with an agenda of hate. Who murdered the two young boys in the Manchester bombing? Guildford? Birmingham? Erm... uh... But mention 'Islam' and it's 'oh, my God, take all the rubbish bins off the streets, in case those crazy guys plant bombs in them', etc. If we aren't careful, we'll be invited to view Muslims in the same way that the Third Reich viewed Jews.
 
The IRA got within a toilet seat of killing the British PM twenty-odd years ago. I was only a kid at the time, so maybe someone who was around in the UK at the time could tell me how the reaction of the security forces then compares to that we've seen in the last year or so?
 
Originally posted by Gareth Flynn@Oct 15 2006, 12:15 PM
The IRA got within a toilet seat of killing the British PM twenty-odd years ago. I was only a kid at the time, so maybe someone who was around in the UK at the time could tell me how the reaction of the security forces then compares to that we've seen in the last year or so?
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Difficult to say Gareth, at the time most of the spooks were concerned with fighting the 'enemy within' indeed D2 (MI5's industrial relations wing) was run by a rising star from Nottingham Girls High School somewhat appropriately called Stella. Wonder what ever became of her? This was taking up a lot of their resources though with some elaborate infiltration (Roger Windsor) and the staging of set piece battles involving the army at coking works (Orgreave) amongst others, and that's before Price Waterhouse were let lose on the NUM's funds

Mind you I think a few of us wanted to believe that Thatcher arranged Brighton, seeing the uncanny paralells with 1930's Germany. ;)

What the IRA failed to legislate for however, was that she wasn't normal :lol: Normal people would be in bed at 3.30am in which case she'd have been in infinately more danger. This android was still writing her speach though :ph34r:

I don't remember any noticable increase in visible security or reporting though, but then I was living in Nottingham at the time, which was pretty well a police state by proxy, with your movements being monitored and checked, especially when travelling out to the north of the county. I remember going to play a cricket match against Newstead Colliery and asking a copper for directions to the ground. Explaining he was from Bristol and knew nothing of Nottingham, he helpfully informed me that he thought there might be one at a place called Trent Bridge.
 
Originally posted by Warbler@Oct 15 2006, 01:44 PM
Mind you I think a few of us wanted to believe that Thatcher arranged Brighton, seeing the uncanny paralells with 1930's Germany.

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Warbler, would you please write to Dr Tom to seek a cure from this conspiracy theory addiction
 
Originally posted by Gareth Flynn@Oct 15 2006, 01:15 PM
The IRA got within a toilet seat of killing the British PM twenty-odd years ago. I was only a kid at the time, so maybe someone who was around in the UK at the time could tell me how the reaction of the security forces then compares to that we've seen in the last year or so?
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We had enhanced security in the square mile that is the City of London, with police checkpoints as you went in. There were no other outward signs of enhanced security and certainly no sort of restrictions that I can recall. But then the mad Irishmen all looked the same as the rest of us.

I remember a marvellous interview on day one of the city checkpoints. The TV reporter got hold of a Rasta who had been stopped and made to get out of his car while the police inspected the contents of hs ashtray. (Remember, this was long before the downgrading of the status of marijuana.)

The guy was brilliant in the interview: "They musta thought I looked Irish. And maybe you can get miniaturised rocket launchers that fit in BMW ashtrays."
 
As indeed today you can, Brian, as the drugs wars are fought out between the gangs, while the police toke up and relax. B)
 
No he was the drummer for The Police. Mind you, the conspiracy theorists among us may be interested that his father was a CIA man and his mother was in British intelligence...
 
I believe his name was Miles Copeland if memory serves me right? and it is widely known that he was. I'm not sure that its any more a conspiracy than David Shayler worked for MI5. Indeed it was he who is supposed to have alerted the NUM as to what D2 were preparing for them, which I wouldn't like to swear to, but am aware that it was a well regarded investigative journo called Seamus Milne who uncovered the link. :ph34r: Although as I look to my bookshelf, I notice its missing and is probably the latest victim of this new interpretation of a word in the English language which has come to mean something different

Lend = Give :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by krizon@Oct 14 2006, 02:11 AM

So, what were they going to blow up? Mosques and Islamic schools? Burnley Town Council's offices?
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That was the original plan Kri but somebody beat them to it
 
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