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Plots and plots

Good read, thanks barjon


"As anyone who has spent time with gamblers knows, when one of them says he broke even, it invariably means he lost"

Been there, got the t-shirt:( (One of my replies when friends asked if I'd had a good Cheltenham always used to be "very good, I only lost £50")
 
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I've always loved the idea of plots.

I was told in the 1970s that an Irish trainer wouldn't back one of his in a handicap unless he'd got it 21lbs well in.
 
HELLOMYDARLIN 445y is a plot/plan if ever I saw onelwhether or not it comes off is another thing.
3rd in the nursery off 98 last year over 6.
Been running in conditions races most it couldnt win.ran off 90 at chester last time from a bad draw and used a bit of energy to get a and weakened 1 out over 6f.
The winner goes for the nunthorpe the 2nd and 4th princess Shabnam and tippy toes both won on sunday and the 3rd is entered in the haydock sprint cup.
Dropped 2lb and a good 7lb claimer on.
The draw in 19 does worry me a bit.
But 33/1 was imo too big.now around 25s.
 
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The great thing about Sir Mark Presscot is he has never broken the rules as such.

Sure he runs 2 milers at 6 firlongs to get them fit but how many times when he steps one up have we all jumped on as he is a ceature of habit and the minute a face has a punt the whole country joins in.

So it's not exactlt a secret.

The best I ever heard of was the improvement a horse of Martin Pipes had show at home. He was already a winner but they reckoned he'd come on so much he could run backwards and still win...the Horse ?
Unsinkable Boxer AP McCoy the pertempts.........Chester barnes they say could have bought Chester with the money he alone took out that day.

Gay Future was just plain naughty
 
Michael Neville , Doneraile was one of the great plot trainers in my lifetime.
I remember at Mallow Races in the late 1970s a filly he trained called Hamer's Flame winning a 12 f handicap by 12 lengths; Stephen Craine , claiming 5 lbs rode her.
Off until the following spring she ran third in a Curragh maiden hurdle (when hurdles were reintroduced there for a short while) where trainer was called in under non triers rule.
Following this was a trip to the Derby Sales where the filly was bought in for 4000 or so.
Amateur Handicap at Galway was next stop. 11-2 looked a lot of weight for a four year old filly but well backed at fancy prices she won at 20/1 without jockey Willie Cronin having to resort to his whip.
For good measure she won a Galway Plate three years later.
Mick Neville died spring of 1986 less than a week after his final runner won a Naas bumper by 10lengths having been backed from 10/1 into 6/4.

Anyone who read Peter Sheridan's first book " 44, A Dublin Memoir " will recognise the trainer's name.
Peter's parents had a boarding house where all sorts stayed ; one , a Corkman waited for Peter's Da to arrive home with the Evening Press/Herald and check the racing pages.
Anyways a Neville horse was running the following day , the house mates had whatever they could on only for no return.
Mystified, the Corkman couldn't believe this to be the true running.
The same horse had a name change and an again a few weeks later, winning at a huge price.
The Sheridan's rent was paid that week and few bottles had to boot.
Peter's brother Jim went on to own Vinnie Roe as well as making a movie or six.
 
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My brother was asked to participate in a coup earlier this year.The night before the race eve horse opened up at 33/1 -3minutes later and I mean 3 minutes later it was 6s.Owner didn't get his money on -horse withdrawn.
 

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