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The 2025 Royal Ascot Friday Thread

reet hard said:
It was pace - not draw - that decided the Commonwealth, Nap!
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I have a lot of sympathy with this view. The sectionals will give an idea of how efficiently each runner ran. If the winner gets an A or better and the nearside get lower grades it will back up the notion.
 
Slim said:
The fav has run very poorly. Back to the drawing board with that and Jonquil.
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Strange choice of race for Jonquil. He chased a suicidal pace in the French Guineas + battled back when Henri Matisse came to him
Thought he'd struggle over 6f on that ground.
 
Moore's jockeyship has won that 3.40. Had he ridden Mutaawid it would have won. Crowley was too prominent and has done best of the front runners, the others dropping away. Mutaawid has put five and ten lengths and more respectively between himself and the three leaders from the two pole. I'll be giving him a fair old mark-up. I'm annoyed because I really fancied Mutaawid a lot.

Yet another place return, though, as I had 16/1.
 
reet hard said:
Watch the start Slim.
The yank flew from his low draw,and set the tone for the whole race.
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Yes this is correct. That's why you need to look where the pace is in a sprint race in particular - unless you are me and forget.... :rolleyes:
 
Sounding like seat 11A!


I was about to post - 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ really? These results are getting to me. You chase Big Price Syndrome in other races and it doesn't pan out then things like this happen.
 
This ground bias is starting to look a bit more now. I do agree with pace but those in the middle drifted over and it's paid off. Sounds like the Cof C has been trying to even things out and has made a BIG difference compared to the rest of the week
 
Is there any way of finding out who is on the inside draw with the quickest ground? Is it simply the number of the horse? I've stuck to the same selections I posted earlier in this thread apart from switching to Chantily Lane instead of January in the 16:20. I will probably stick to Amiloc in the next one - as long as it's drawn on the correct side of the track 😂
 
The draw bias is not so much of an issue ground wise on the round course. It's more about the position so they can get in a good spot to get round the bend and not get into traffic problems when they straighten up and want to quicken. The straight course yesterday the bias was favouring high numbers while today it's low numbers.
(Draw number is separate to horse number).
 
jinnyj said:
The draw bias is not so much of an issue ground wise on the round course. It's more about the position so they can get in a good spot to get round the bend and not get into traffic problems when they straighten up and want to quicken. The straight course yesterday the bias was favouring high numbers while today it's low numbers.
(Draw number is separate to horse number).
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I understand that, but I'm wondering if there is a way you can find out in advance which draw number a horse has, or do they just randomly get given a stall when they get on the course?
 
Nijinsky said:
I understand that, but I'm wondering if there is a way you can find out in advance which draw number a horse has, or do they just randomly get given a stall when they get on the course?
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The draw is allocated at the time of final declarations, 48 hours before the race. They'll be available at the RP site from about 11am.
 
Nijinsky said:
I understand that, but I'm wondering if there is a way you can find out in advance which draw number a horse has, or do they just randomly get given a stall when they get on the course?
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There is the racecard number and then in brackets next to it the horses' stall number.

High at Ascot on the straight course is the near side..

Low at Ascot on the straight course is the far side.
 
Slim said:
There is the racecard number and then in brackets next to it the horses' stall number.

High at Ascot on the straight course is the near side..

Low at Ascot on the straight course is the far side.
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Just to add, a number of years back they universalised (if that's a word) each course's approach to numbering the stalls. Nowadays the low draws are to the inside of the track, high draws to the outside. You should also take note of where the stalls are positioned on the track. It will say either 'Inside'/'Low' or 'Outside'/'High' or 'Centre'.
 
jinnyj said:
The draw bias is not so much of an issue ground wise on the round course. It's more about the position so they can get in a good spot to get round the bend and not get into traffic problems when they straighten up and want to quicken. The straight course yesterday the bias was favouring high numbers while today it's low numbers.
(Draw number is separate to horse number).
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We were lead that way by Uncle. Hopefully he's made it pay. Now that's an " edge "😆
 
Ian_Davies said:
Draw biases can be great for punters until the market corrects, but CoCs and connections of poorly-drawn runners are obviously not fans.

The CoC might, after racing yesterday, have tried to water the apparent Stands' side bias away.
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I'm glad somebody actually read it! 😂

Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse tries to help everyone - even the haters! 😂
 

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