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Irish Derby 2025

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edgt

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Ten runners declared, three from UK.
I am a little surprised to see Green Impact among the lot but he may as well take his chance, having little hope against the standard of milers around.
Aiden has just the five so his stronghold may be broken this year.
 
edgt said:
Ten runners declared, three from UK.
I am a little surprised to see Green Impact among the lot but he may as well take his chance, having little hope against the standard of milers around.
Aiden has just the five so his stronghold may be broken this year.
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Green Impact was being aimed at the Epsom Derby. He should run with credit after getting his head in front in a soft race at Leopardstown.
 
I think Serious Contender might out run his odds if he shows up.
Probably got touched off by a group horse last week, good effort as he was up there all the way, off a strong pace.
Has a stone to find, but I think he's progressing.
As long as its good ground + he shows up.
I'm not sure if this is the final field.. 33s, but I'll wait a day or two.
 
It's a little-known (and even less cared about) fact that I'm a lifelong fan of Flemish-style architecture, for which the town of Arras is famous.

I will therefore be interested to see how Pride Of Arras runs, should he rock up for The Curragh's otherwise largely handicap-fest card on Sunday.
 
They want the World Pool money. The days of it being one of the biggest days out in Irish sport is never coming back.
 
“The Curragh's…. largely handicap-fest card on Sunday.”

Entirely right. I’ll probably end up going both days but Saturday’s card is much more interesting.

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Credit to Richard Forristal. He’s written a good piece in Thursday’s Racing Post outlining the issues. It won’t move the needle one millimetre, but at least he said it. Sometimes, isn’t that all we want journalists to do?
 
Green Impact TBA
Lambourn TBA
Lazy Griff William Buick
Pride Of Arras Rossa Ryan
Puppet Master TBA
Serious Contender TBA
Shackleton TBA
Sir Dinadan Richard Kingscote
Tennessee Stud Dylan Browne McMonagle
Thrice TBA

Ten declared - I wonder if Sir Dinaden might make Lambourn's life a misery and end up helping Flemish-style architecture have its day, thus belatedly making the Dante form look marginally less catastrophic than is so far the case. 😂
 
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Grey said:
“The Curragh's…. largely handicap-fest card on Sunday.”

Entirely right. I’ll probably end up going both days but Saturday’s card is much more interesting.
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I've just had a look. Normally I'd want to get my teeth stuck into £100k handicaps but normally the ORs in these race only go down to the mid-90s. These are going down the low 80s and even the high 70s. Those are Class 4/5 marks. I've no inclination to start digging through dross just for the sake of a bet. I'm surprised the races aren't more tightly contested than that.
 
Having successfully supported Lazy Griff EW at Epsom, I couldn’t resist risking two of the points won on that day in the AP market for this race given the offer of the same odds. Drawn adjacent to Lambourn I’m looking forward to this with the added ingredient of Green Impact.
 
I can’t see past Lambourn, but I am interested to see how Pride Of Arras runs. He looked a class horse winning the Dante, but his next to last run in the Derby was too bad to be true. That was likely due to him not handling the course, but maybe there was more to it than that. We should find out today.
 
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Robicheaux said:
I think Serious Contender might out run his odds if he shows up.
Probably got touched off by a group horse last week, good effort as he was up there all the way, off a strong pace.
Has a stone to find, but I think he's progressing.
As long as its good ground + he shows up.
I'm not sure if this is the final field.. 33s, but I'll wait a day or two.
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2nd again after yesterdays Pitman Derby
He's ran really well. Thought he was coming to win it. Got 50s ew.
 
I was annoyed in the Oaks when I felt Whirl's jockey allowed Moore to win.

Now Serious Contender's goes and does the same, in my opinion. It looked to me like SC was just about to go ahead when the jockey decided he'd done his job. The return will cover my outsider bets in the race but not the Green Impact one.
 
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That was impressive. I thought Lambourn went too fast in front.
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They're saying on RTV the pace wasn't strong but I'm with you, I thought they went fast through the first half-mile. The on-screen graphic was showing 40+mph, which strikes me as fast for the early stages of a 12f race. They did slow up after that and it will be interesting to see the pace map.
 
3.72 faster than standard. Excuse my language but f%*& me. The winner must be very very good.
 

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