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Forum member jailed - Chris Beek Racing - Kachina Racing

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That Birmingham Mail article is actually quite funny if it wasn't so serious. As I know Beek well - I can actually hear him saying all these things. When he used to try stuff like that on with us, we just used tell him to shut up as we knew it was b*llsh*t
 
RaRa3 said:
Wtf is he doing with all of the money he steals from people? It’s been a job finding any info on him other than the press stories about the court case when he went to jail.
This is the only forum I have been able to find other victims on, not to mention read all of the “woe is me” tales about depression and being so unlucky in life, blah blah blah. Some sound like the sob story messages he sends when you ask for a refund when things don’t materialise. Rather surprised he hasn’t had a flying pig or unicorn crash-land on his head and kill him given how unlucky he is.

Can’t believe the amount of people who were saying it’s ok, he’s done his time etc either….

It would be interesting to know what other information people have on this “man”.
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Why don't you look on his public Facebook page. It looks like he had plans for a new VIP Exotic Animal experience. How genuine that was/is, I have no idea.

My instictive opinion is, he got a taste of the high life, but is unable to scale a business both up and down in a professional manner. He sees any downward trend as failure, so gambles heavily to 'make it all good again', loses, then starts robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you look back on the thread, he states he 'did his brains' on three horses at Hamilton, which wiped him out. Really, three at Hamilton?

He probably learned some legal jargon while locked up, so using terms like "as a Goodwill gesture I will fully refund", knowing a goodwill gesture is not enforceable (hence his crass email reply further up the thread). Sounded a bit angry too, maybe he's 'done his brains' again 'pickiging the bones' out of three 0-50s at Wolverhampton?


Problem gambler using other peoples money when he runs out of his own imo. Sounds like a real prick, but I kind of pity him, in the sense that he'll never know or feel the emotions we all do, what he displays is all an act (which is now obvious). I don't think there's much inside but a hollow emptiness. Akin to how a psychopath lives their life. Sad.
 
Like many (I've read similar comments to those I am about to make here on social media in reaction to this sort of thing) I've always been confused as to why so many victims get lured into this sort of thing.

I have never been approached and invited to get involved in anything like this.

Do they target individuals they sense might be susceptible, do certain people even seek them out, I'd imagine the majority of us are obviously savvy enough to be not even worth approaching.

Some people in my area fell for something not entirely dissimilar about ten years ago: Hampshire man admits £4m betting fraud - BBC News

The profile of one victim I vaguely knew was: early middle-aged, I'd say average intelligence or slightly below, interested in betting but, like so many, didn't know as much as he thought he did and in fact had little idea how much more there was to know than he did, but then isn't that the profile of so many recreational punters?

And a few years ago I heard about what sounded like another such scheme and was astounded to hear one bloke, recently retired and who I'd hitherto considered reasonably on the ball, talking about going to an introductory meeting to find out what the scheme was about.

Racing and betting do strange things to some people.

It makes savvy businessmen who've ruthlessly made fortunes become patsys for callow public schoolboy bloodstock "advisers," it makes otherwise rational educated professional people join Ponzi schemes.

We live in a world where numerous people are successful and accumulate money, yet remain fundamentally naive on some levels, hence vulnerable to these sort of cowboys.

They obviously never in their youth watched Guys And Dolls and missed Sky Masterson (Marlon Brando)'s "cider in your ear" anecdote:
 
Ian_Davies said:
Like many (I've read similar comments to those I am about to make here on social media in reaction to this sort of thing) I've always been confused as to why so many victims get lured into this sort of thing.

I have never been approached and invited to get involved in anything like this.

Do they target individuals they sense might be susceptible, do certain people even seek them out, I'd imagine the majority of us are obviously savvy enough to be not even worth approaching.

Some people in my area fell for something not entirely dissimilar about ten years ago: Hampshire man admits £4m betting fraud - BBC News

The profile of one victim I vaguely knew was: early middle-aged, I'd say average intelligence or slightly below, interested in betting but, like so many, didn't know as much as he thought he did and in fact had little idea how much more there was to know than he did, but then isn't that the profile of so many recreational punters?

And a few years ago I heard about what sounded like another such scheme and was astounded to hear one bloke, recently retired and who I'd hitherto considered reasonably on the ball, talking about going to an introductory meeting to find out what the scheme was about.

Racing and betting do strange things to some people.

It makes savvy businessmen who've ruthlessly made fortunes become patsys for callow public schoolboy bloodstock "advisers," it makes otherwise rational educated professional people join Ponzi schemes.

We live in a world where numerous people are successful and accumulate money, yet remain fundamentally naive on some levels, hence vulnerable to these sort of cowboys.

They obviously never in their youth watched Guys And Dolls and missed Sky Masterson (Marlon Brando)'s "cider in your ear" anecdote:
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What I don't get is that people were so taken in by him. I mean if you met him, you can see through the rubbish he's spouting pretty easily. He's not some slick well spoken guy who reels you in like a romance scammer. He's an overweight and rather sad, sweaty individual that you wouldn't have a load of confidence in.
 
My loss was nothing to do with betting or horses. He certainly wasn’t selling things at such cheap prices that you ought to realise it was too good to be true. It was more things that are tricky to get hold of unless you know someone. I guess that’s how they draw you in though.
Funnily enough, one was VIP experience stays at safari parks!
 
Height-weight proportionate, urbane, well spoken, good looking (a touch of the Hugh Grants, perhaps) and well groomed, with one's perspiration and body odour well under control, are perhaps the ideal qualities required for the would-be scammer. 😂
 
jinnyj said:
What I don't get is that people were so taken in by him. I mean if you met him, you can see through the rubbish he's spouting pretty easily. He's not some slick well spoken guy who reels you in like a romance scammer. He's an overweight and rather sad, sweaty individual that you wouldn't have a load of confidence in.
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Annoyingly he was highly recommended by a very reliable friend/professional. Completely unrelated to the horse industry.
 
Given your revelations about your height, I'd always assumed you were more of a Paul Newman.

Edit: Ignore that - they're the same F-ing height. 😂
 
He used to post gallop reports on here, and people thought he was doing them a favour. He probably just copied and pasted them from The Weekender.
 
Ian_Davies said:
Given your revelations about your height, I'd always assumed you were more of a Paul Newman.

Edit: Ignore that - they're the same F-ing height. 😂
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The present Mrs O does laugh when I refer to the comparison but she does concede that I have aged a LOT better.
 
Slim said:
He used to post gallop reports on here, and people thought he was doing them a favour. He probably just copied and pasted them from The Weekender.
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They were 100% not his. He does not have an articulate command of the English language.
 
I do recall being surprised by the difference between his own posts and the articulate nature of those gallops reports.
 
I doubt they were taken from the Weekender. They don't say anything other than which trainer's runners galloped, occasionally with the comments "best" or "went well", apart from most of the Gosdens' which seem to attract the comment "impressed" for some reason.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I doubt they were taken from the Weekender. They don't say anything other than which trainer's runners galloped, occasionally with the comments "best" or "went well", apart from most of the Gosdens' which seem to attract the comment "impressed" for some reason.
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I would say they were closer than you think.
 
I'm still amazed what people fall & then hand people chunks of money.

These days he could cut & paste chunks from various sources, load it into chatgpt or claude and ask it to merge it all then reword it from xyz angle or induce interest in certain parts. Then sell it on to his latest mark(s)
 
I've been giving this subject a lot of thought the last day or two.

One thing that protects me from this sort of thing is I'm chronically unsociable and suspicious - the sort of person who doesn't answer the phone unless the caller is on my contacts and doesn't open the door if the doorbell rings if I wasn't expecting a visitor.

A Chris Beek would literally never get the chance to speak to me, let alone ensnare me.

It has its downsides - networking can be a big edge in betting, as Slim rightly says in his list, and I literally let someone else do it for me.

He's actually at Kempton Park as I write and in our deeply transactional collaboration/friendship I do a lot of the analytical digging while the lazy - but gregarious! - fecker gets out there and actually finds things out, which he feeds back to Mr Geeky Loner here as part of the deal. 😂
 
I used to live in Hull many years ago and it's very much a City of two halves.

The Beverley/West Hull (Swanland, Kirk Ella, and Cottingham) side was leafy and affluent, but East Hull (where many of Habbershaws shops were purpose-built in pub car parks on council estates) was in places rough as ****.

I'm guessing he isn't a Swanland lad! 😂
 
" Gee, that's a lovely tattoo " is rarely heard at church choir practice, though I heard it once.
Even church is lowering it's standards it seems.
Gambling success , cancer and animal welfare charities bring out the best in us to part with money.
Combine all three and you have a lifestyle trixie to cash in.
 
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