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Forum member jailed - Chris Beek Racing - Kachina Racing

I'm very sad to hear that you have been feeling suicidal - I struggled for years with this until I managed to get put on the right meds.

My sister killed herself back in 2013 - so I know just how pointless it is. I made her watch It's a wonderful life the Christmas before she died and she had seemed to take the message at the time but it obviously didn't stick for a long term.

There is stuff to live for even if it doesn't seem so at times.

I am sorry for your loss Simmo. I've always struggled to be honest, even when things were good. I've never found meds work, neither has talking to professionals. I don't know why, often I just feel, a dark room and a good cry can sort out the mind. I don't doubt there are reasons to live, and people are right when they say you shouldn't look back, but when the past is what holds you back, it becomes difficult.
 
What happened to Calico Cat after he was sold?

I don't know if he ran or anything in Sweden, but I was told in November 2014, that he had been updated at deceased with Weatherby's. The trainer did say when he bought him, he would keep in touch, but they never did and I don't know how he died, but only that he was registered as deceased in November 2014.
 
Apologies for bumping an old thread, but I felt it was important to make people aware that, despite all the previous apologies and apparent contrition, Chris is still up to his old tricks.

For at least the past 18 months, he’s been operating so-called “tipping services” via WhatsApp and Telegram, as well as selling shares in horses. Unsurprisingly, not one of these horses has set foot on a racecourse, despite money being paid well over a year ago. I recently spoke to an acquaintance of mine who has been receiving tips from Chris for well over a year, and also bought into one of his horses. He has been promised a refund—but, to this day, hasn’t seen a penny back. Chris keeps putting him off saying it will be sent "in a few weeks" etc.

This person originally signed up to what was marketed as a “lifetime deal” for what seemed like a decent service, after receiving a few free gallop reports from an unknown source. At no point was it revealed that the person behind the service was Chris Beek. That only came to light much later.

Over the following 18 months, he was bombarded with a constant stream of new offers—one-off payments for horses supposedly “a certainty,” claims of inside info, and promises of refunds if selections lost (which never materialised). There was always a new service popping up, often running for just a few weeks before vanishing—only to be replaced by the next “game-changer” shortly after. Each came with an upfront fee.

The person I spoke to paid for a few of these services initially, but quickly realised how poor they were. Still, the offers kept coming—often asking for a couple of hundred quid a time. From what I understand, several people in the original WhatsApp group had already paid around £500 for the “lifetime deal,” and many of them likely ended up handing over a couple of grand more over the course of a year.

It was only recently, after yet another payment request landed in his inbox, that he noticed the payment details listed “Mr Chris Beek.” Suddenly, the entire previous 18 months started to make a little more sense.

Some front on him, fair play.
 
I wondered what he’d been up to - given what he has done in the past to many people it’s sad that he’s not learnt a thing from it.

Your poor friend. Some people are incredibly plausible and that’s what they do - prey on nice people.
 
A few people on here need to read page two of this thread. When's he's assuring you all that he's a changed character.

He emailed and messaged me begging my forgiveness and that he was full of remorse. I did not engage but instead asked the Mods to ban him permanently. He ripped me off. He ripped a lot of people off. I never once believed he was being truthful about his remorse.

And funny how leopards really don't change their spots!
 
A few people on here need to read page two of this thread. When's he's assuring you all that he's a changed character.

He emailed and messaged me begging my forgiveness and that he was full of remorse. I did not engage but instead asked the Mods to ban him permanently. He ripped me off. He ripped a lot of people off. I never once believed he was being truthful about his remorse.

And funny how leopards really don't change their spots!
Yes, from chatting to this lad, I think he genuinely believes half the stuff he says. He seems to believe he is some sort of racing doyen. Talks a good game but his stuff his terrible. He has forwarded on a lot of the emails and he is almost always tipping favourites with messages like "held in the highest regard and will be much too good for these". Absolute codswallop.
 
I've actually just messaged this lad again asking him when he actually first paid Chris, and he's checked his emails. He actually first paid him the "lifetime deal" in February 2022. Chris posted his "woe is me" contrition post on here in October 2022. So he had already been back at it for at least 8 months at that stage. Unbelievable 🤣
 
As you say, there’s more front than Woolies going on. I’ve just gone and read it all again - I missed the whole of page 2, it must have been put up when I had a break from here.
Some people…
 
A few people on here need to read page two of this thread. When's he's assuring you all that he's a changed character.

He emailed and messaged me begging my forgiveness and that he was full of remorse. I did not engage but instead asked the Mods to ban him permanently. He ripped me off. He ripped a lot of people off. I never once believed he was being truthful about his remorse.

And funny how leopards really don't change their spots!
Sorry indeed to hear this
 
Latest:
Acquaintance has emailed Beek a few times requesting his refund for the horse shares that never materialised. As I said, he was promised the refund within 2 weeks, and it has now been about a month. After a few emails with no reply, he received this earlier today...

"The refund will be made when I am in a position to do so. The refund offer was made as a gesture of goodwill despite the fact that I lost an absolute fortune with these two horses and I have no legal requirement to refund anybody. If you email me again about this subject you will not be refunded that I am going to be very very clear on. You’ll be refunded when I’m in a position to do so if you ask one more time you will get no refund so do yourself a favour and stop contacting me about it. If you continue to pester me over this matter which is being done out of Goodwill you will not get a penny end of story goodbye."

Definitely sounds like he's a reformed character eh?
 
Ricko I'm really sorry to read this. And he needs to report him somehow. If he was released after only serving half of his sentence, surely there are terms and conditions which I would imagine include not indulging again in the same fraudulent methods?

If you read all the stuff he says about me (I'm the Kirsty he is referring to) he claims he's paid me back everything he owed me. Well he did pay the training fees I will admit, but he bought two horses in my name at Newmarket Sales and paid for neither leaving me with a debt of £14k for one and £3,500 for the other. I was able to find an owner for the 2yo (who's still alive and well living in Essex with a lovely girl who gives me updates - and that's after suffering a really nasty condylar fracture which ended her career) so we paid off the £14k but the other one, I was only able to sell two 10% shares. The horse sadly died with the money still outstanding which actually Beek still owes. It means I can never buy another horse in my name from Newmarket Sales should I wish to.

He is worse than I portrayed on here, because he literally has none of the remorse he claims if he is still doing this. I hope there is some way of justice catching up with him again. I sent my ex the link to this thread and Beek seriously needs to hope he doesn't bump into him in a dark alley (he was scared of him on a good day!)
 
Ricko I'm really sorry to read this. And he needs to report him somehow. If he was released after only serving half of his sentence, surely there are terms and conditions which I would imagine include not indulging again in the same fraudulent methods?

If you read all the stuff he says about me (I'm the Kirsty he is referring to) he claims he's paid me back everything he owed me. Well he did pay the training fees I will admit, but he bought two horses in my name at Newmarket Sales and paid for neither leaving me with a debt of £14k for one and £3,500 for the other. I was able to find an owner for the 2yo (who's still alive and well living in Essex with a lovely girl who gives me updates - and that's after suffering a really nasty condylar fracture which ended her career) so we paid off the £14k but the other one, I was only able to sell two 10% shares. The horse sadly died with the money still outstanding which actually Beek still owes. It means I can never buy another horse in my name from Newmarket Sales should I wish to.

He is worse than I portrayed on here, because he literally has none of the remorse he claims if he is still doing this. I hope there is some way of justice catching up with him again. I sent my ex the link to this thread and Beek seriously needs to hope he doesn't bump into him in a dark alley (he was scared of him on a good day!)

Shocking stuff, really sorry you had to go through that, seems there are a lot of people sorry they ever met him. The thing that gets me the most is his self-entitled attitude. Acting like he's the one doing people a massive favour - by fleecing them for as much as he could whilst sending out absolute crap disguised as genuine info.
 
Thanks - I'm made of pretty tough stuff fortunately! :) And I went through a lot that was probably worse!! It's what goes with the territory - being a female in a male dominated industry who didn't have the large amounts of dosh behind her to overcome the innumerable obstacles! But I'm still smiling!

He started off in Cloud Cuckoo Land but it's become more sinister the more he impacts people's lives.
 
You’d assume he would be on some kind of licence if he’s been released early - so to reoffend would be insanely stupid. Maybe he doesn’t think anyone will report him for it - maybe he really thinks he’s intimidating with responses like those, who knows what goes on in his mind.

At least he’s finally got a licence….
 
You’d assume he would be on some kind of licence if he’s been released early - so to reoffend would be insanely stupid. Maybe he doesn’t think anyone will report him for it - maybe he really thinks he’s intimidating with responses like those, who knows what goes on in his mind.

At least he’s finally got a licence….

Not sure if he's actually doing anything illegal currently though, is the issue. He's just running a tipping service - even if he using the most underhand tactics at his disposal to rake in as much as he can.
 
But surely if he's been done for fraud in the past, he can't be allowed to do the same sort of activity - at least while on licence or I would have thought it broke the terms of it? Might be worth a call to CPS to inquire?
 
But surely if he's been done for fraud in the past, he can't be allowed to do the same sort of activity - at least while on licence or I would have thought it broke the terms of it? Might be worth a call to CPS to inquire?
No idea to be honest, you'd think not
 
There always has and likely always will be plenty of men/women who are con artists, shysters etc out there, but I'm always perplexed at just how people continue to fall hook , line and sinker for their nonsense and verbal diarrhea which when it comes down to brass tacks means you handing them money/assets.

Listen to someone's slaver sometimes if you want but when comes to handing them anything the red alert should go off in your head and politely or impolitely decline.
If you really must chance it with these people always keep your potential loss to a level where you can just go meh and walk away and lesson learned.

I think you are either that way inclined or not to go after money like that and it's just who you are, I'm glad I'm not.
 
My experience with him was a little different. As he had bought other horses and paid for them. So I had no reason to believe he wasn't going to cough up this time round. I even stood with him at the Sales having bought a 2yo filly from Darley for £800 saying are you sure you don't want to have this filly instead as she's cheap as chips. Ironically she won for me (and the TRF syndicate) whereas the other filly got injured. But I asked him several times and he was adamant he could pay.
 
Acting totally legit initially can be all part of the con to build up confidence and reel in the mark so they leave themselves wide open for a good score
 
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