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The 2025 Glorious Goodwood Day 1 (Tuesday) thread

Euronymous said:
Very trappy card. Was discussing the opener on Twitter with someone and I remarked that I'd put Castle Cove in my tracker after his impressive Chester win and thought even with the trainer it was an under the radar selection as he won on a Saturday on a non-tv card. No such luck. I'm not getting involved at his current price.

The only other race of interest is the Lennox where I've already lost on Cosmic Year but have also backed Jonquil. I'm not rampantly keen on him but I had to get involved as Kinross is a terrible fav at his current state of decline. It's a dodgepot race though, last year's atrocity a perfect example. Small stakes, better bets later in the week.
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Audience dotted up to win this off a soft lead last term,and (with the blinds applied) I see little in the race to prevent a repeat this year
 
I thought you suggested Audience made all - maybe you meant Audience dotted up off another horse's soft lead?

It can't have been that soft a lead - Audience went past him. 😂
 
Visually, I thought it looked fast but the sectionals say otherwise:

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Simon Rowlands concluded:

A race that would have broken the course record but for rail movements which added 9 yards (around 0.5s) to the advertised distance, but that is down to ground conditions that were objectively “good to firm” if not firmer rather than pace, for there was not a lot of the latter in the first half in reality, Audience covering the first 4f about 1.0s (over 6 lengths at these speeds) slower than the 2-y-o Aomori City had managed a bit earlier. The field was quite well strung out all the same, with the first 2 home at the front, then a few lengths to English Oak and a few more lengths to the rest, and it unsurprisingly proved difficult to make headway from behind. That all said, Audience deserves credit for a high-class performance, his second of the season following his Lockinge win, and he is some operator when in the mood. His final 2f of 22.68s equates to a finishing speed of 105.1%.


I can see something similar happening tomorrow and have taken 11/2.
 
In the 5f handicap tomorrow I'd give Democracy Dilemma a chance generally a 16/1 shot. Hasn't hit top gear as yet but if memory serves the high side rail has acted as a bit of a Golden highway in years gone by and he likes to go from the front. From 17 he should be able to grab the rail and try and go pillar to post half a dozen places available with some firms and he might be difficult to catch if reaching anywhere near the levels he reached last summer off his ever decreasing mark. Probably going to have to have a thieving ew double with Billyjoh the next day as he should've won this race last year aswell as running a cracker in the stewards at the same meet.

Best of luck chaps.
 
Slim said:
I just love the fact that the hungry bastard rang Goffs. A Group 2 isn't enough for him
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Gharma Sutra is currently weak in the betting (75 to pennies on the win market on the machine), but the yard (if you include Snr and Jnr) has a Hell of a record in this race.

The father farmed (FOUR consecutive wins) it at one point and the son won it two years ago with Haatem: Vintage Stakes - Wikipedia
 
Ian_Davies said:
Gharma Sutra is currently weak in the betting (75 to pennies on the win market on the machine), but the yard (if you include Snr and Jnr) has a Hell of a record in this race.

The father farmed (FOUR consecutive wins) it at one point and the son won it two years ago with Haatem: Vintage Stakes - Wikipedia
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Tne weakness does tell me that this is absolute minimum stakes stuff. So many of these stories just aren't worth hearing.
 
I thought Jolly Jack Tar looked like a Group horse in a handicap -1:20 tomorrow.Very weak on bet fair at the moment which concerns me.
 
LUKE said:
I thought Jolly Jack Tar looked like a Group horse in a handicap -1:20 tomorrow.Very weak on bet fair at the moment which concerns me.
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I've downgraded my bet to a cover one for others in the race but suspect it must be a Godolphin special either tomorrow or somewhere down the line, maybe the Cambs.
 
Danny said:
In the 5f handicap tomorrow I'd give Democracy Dilemma a chance generally a 16/1 shot. Hasn't hit top gear as yet but if memory serves the high side rail has acted as a bit of a Golden highway in years gone by and he likes to go from the front. From 17 he should be able to grab the rail and try and go pillar to post half a dozen places available with some firms and he might be difficult to catch if reaching anywhere near the levels he reached last summer off his ever decreasing mark. Probably going to have to have a thieving ew double with Billyjoh the next day as he should've won this race last year as well as running a cracker in the stewards at the same meet.

Best of luck chaps.
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I've had a bit already on the double but haven't backed this single I think I've probably jumped the gun. I was reading the drying ground on several racing post spotlights. Not sure what the state is now as they've watered and had a bit of rain and DD would want it rattling fast. I'm also weary that he's drawn close to the stables first string Jakojaro who's probably going to get a nice tow through off of him. On first glance of Jakajaros run at Ascot it'd be lock and load territory here as he looked to have loads left when he run into the back of the bunch and was picking up like a rocket. The only thing that worries me with that is it doesn't really tie in with the rest of his form. On that last run he's been hard against the favoured rail all the way down before switching late so made as much use as possible of the golden highway that day. I'm stuck between who had it worst Redorange being drawn on completely the wrong side and working over late with a fairly clear run or Jakajaro benefitting from riding in the fast lane but getting stopped in his tracks. It's a tough one but both live chances and DD might give JJ a nice pull through the race. JJ does have the burden of Spencer who actually has a cracking book of rides for Hay this afternoon and if Spencer wasn't Spencer then all of them would possibly stand a chance of framing.

Was hoping to get something solid together today for a decent multiple but just not getting anywhere fast.
 
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Desert Orchid said:
The horse may be gone at the game but in the 1.20 I've backed Ancient Rome (14/1) like it was a 5/1 shot. If it's fit, trying and not in terminal decline it should be odds on but I'm not sure if all three apply and I'm not sure I trust Spencer not to show off with a typical last-to-first ride. I think it's been trained all year for this.

It missed Goodwood last year having run in a G2 at Ascot earlier in July and taking in the G1 Arlington Million in August when rated 110 but it's now down to 100 having won this race two years ago off 105.

I thought I'd get my shekels on before jinnyj crashes the price :)
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This, I reckon, is arguably the best handicap I've studied all season and I've taken the blunderbuss to it because I think a lot of them are the wrong price.

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This has the makings of a high class and deeply competitive race, arguably one of the best I’ve looked at this season. I’ve taken 14/1 Ancient Rome who won this two years ago off 105. This time last year he was running in G1s and G2s off 110 so I presume they’ve realised he isn’t up to winning them and they’ve successfully engineered a serious reduction in his mark. He has a decent draw which he didn’t have two years ago and had to be ridden from the back. I’m holding off for now on See Hector hoping for 66s or better being offered more widely. The only firm currently offering the price don’t let me bet with them. Savvy Victory should never be 50s either so he is worth a pop but, again, I’ll hold off for a drift. Shadow Dance is probably targeting the Ebor. This doesn’t look his trip. Sir Busker is another who looks seriously overpriced. The flies in the ointment are the lightly raced could-be-anythings from the Haggas and Appleby yards. It isn’t hard to envisage Jolly Jack Tar’s being more highly thought of than stablemate Westridge and they might want to get it up the ratings to get into the Cambridgeshire ahead of a Group race campaign next season. Haggas’s Archivist was sent off favourite for the Magnet Cup a couple of weeks ago. I’ve no idea if Castle Cove was entered but he would comfortably have made the cut even off his old mark plus a penalty so I’m less convinced by him. I have a sneaking suspicion English Oak might want this trip now so I’ve also taken 18/1 about him. I’m happy to cover them with the Godolphin horse although the market weakness with him is a concern.
 
You must have put the curse on my pony there Dessie! He ran disappointingly despite being given every chance.
 
I was out and have only just caught the replay, jinnyj.

I don't think he was given every chance. I thought he was held up unnecessarily far back off a modest pace. I was very surprised to hear the commentator talk about the likes of Sir Busker not being able to go the pace when the on-screen speedo was only clicking 34mph. (I interrupted typing this to watch the Vintage and they were clocking 37-38-39mph.) That's pedestrian. There aren't any sectionals up yet so I'll watch for them with interest to see if they contradict what my eyes were telling me.

The Gosdens have pulled a stroke with the winner, using a high-profile outfit like Godolphin to deflect from their other one who ended up winning impressively.

It's a proper enthusiasm-killer for the meeting for me, drawing a complete blank from several selections in the first race. :confused:
 
Well I'm not overly happy about the result of the second for obvious reasons - I've turned over the channel and am going to get my stuff ready for tomorrow! Cannot stand the obsequious gushing over such a nasty piece of work.
 
Am I the only one whose head hurts at Scamdanavia running today?

Seville is the only three-year-old I can remember Coolmore running in a Cup race—and they waited for Doncaster with him. The initial reaction is to assume something is wrong with Illinois. There isn’t. I’d suspect the market will come for Illinois at the off.

After his run at Royal Ascot, Scamdanavia could easily have gone the handicap route and mopped up something like the Irish Cesarewitch. I really can’t see the upside to running him today.
 

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