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The 2025 Prix De L'Arc De Triomphe Weekend Meeting Thread

Just to prove I can call it on race strength and conditions, not pre-held bias: this race is priced inefficiently. Ground unknown but I’m siding with it not being too testing. The market will come for something – and the one you can near guarantee will be in position and on the bridle 2f out is Kalpana. I’ve called her a dog before, but I wouldn’t lay 10/1.
 
I am told they have had 6mm rain in the last 24 hours with a further 8mm rain expected in the next 24 hours - we shall see.
 
I have always been a Los Angeles fan and while I am not over enamoured by his draw he comes here pretty much ignored by everyone except for Kevin Blake (yes I know he is guaranteed to spout forth on AOB runners)
He ran a cracker last year to finish third and is another year older (and stronger). Started off this season well then came that Ascot race where he went off at a ridiculous pace and I think that marred the season for him. So they laid off him and he's had two runs to come back - he was fat as a pig last time in France and I have had a bit on at 40s and 33s. May only be placed again but he will handle any more rain happily.
 
jinnyj said:
I have always been a Los Angeles fan and while I am not over enamoured by his draw he comes here pretty much ignored by everyone except for Kevin Blake (yes I know he is guaranteed to spout forth on AOB runners)
He ran a cracker last year to finish third and is another year older (and stronger). Started off this season well then came that Ascot race where he went off at a ridiculous pace and I think that marred the season for him. So they laid off him and he's had two runs to come back - he was fat as a pig last time in France and I have had a bit on at 40s and 33s. May only be placed again but he will handle any more rain happily.
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I'm already on him + White Birch ew at 45s.
Don't paticularly fancy either, but Aiden has said all season this is the target.
 
Between the current top 2 in the market Minnie Hauk and Aventure, the latter has the better record on softer going, especially at 1m4f.

But it's just one race, and some backers seem to end up with a lot riding on one race result, that's not my thing and I never get hung up on finding the winner on any one particular race.

Me I'm not enamored with any of them for more than an interest/tv bet, but I like Quisisana for an ew 4 places bet. I see it's as much as 20/1 on oddschecker
 
Ian_Davies said:
I am close to finalising my "Arcfolio" and am just waiting to see how the ground is riding tomorrow.
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I have decided not to wait, I expect give in the ground and, if the times today prove me wrong, I'll revise the following opinion, but, as it stands....

This isn't a vintage Arc renewal, it's open, but that's what makes it interesting as a punter.

But that doesn't mean the value is at the bigger prices - White Birch would be an interesting one at a longer price if he gets his ground, but the trip might be far enough and is he quite good enough?

Minnie Hauk is the only in the field who might be better than she's shown so far and we all want her to win so Slim can eat.

But I just wonder if easy ground is ideal for her, she bounced off quick ground at York and for me she might be the wrong favourite.

Aventure has a jolly's chance in a 4/1 the field open race for me, there is nothing not to like about her.

Runner up last year in this, beating Los Angeles and Sosie fair and square, then this year runner up to Calandagan in the Grand Prix De Saint-Cloud and beat Gezora emphatically in the Prix Vermeille.

If Survie or Bedtime Story (related contingency double material) win today, she may shorten further and a big field is no bother to her.

But she's not my main bet.

Some doubt how genuine she is, but Kalpana at 10/1 is my idea of the value.

Runner up in the King George to Calandagan, closer to the gelding than Aventure got at Saint-Cloud and will appreciate easier ground here.

The September Stakes just didn't go her way, she's way better than that, and if she hadn't run in it she'd be half the price she is.

If I'm right about the ground, you can forget the winner that day at Kempton Park, along with the Japanese runners.

Kalpana and Aventure have the best Group 1 form for 1m4f on an easy surface and the still unexposed Minnie Hauk is the only one with the potential to be better than them.

Fillies have a decent enough Arc record and I'm going for a 1-2-3 here.

Stand by for a complete volte face if the course record gets smashed in the Chaudenay!
 
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Outsider said:
Mais c'est combien?
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Dunno tbh, just tuned in before a race and it was wet and windy (that's Longchamp, not Walsworth).

I think that's it for the rain now and tomorrow will be sunny intervals, but it looked Soft to me today, both visually and on times.
 

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