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The 2025 Paddy Power Gold Cup (Handicap Chase)

Slim said:
The top of the betting wouldn't exactly knock your eye out. Gidleigh Park might just be the most 'Grade 1' horse in the race.
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They seem to fancy The Jukebox Man for the King George so he'd be another potential G1 horse in the race but he seems friendless so probably doubts about getting there this weekend. We'll maybe know a wee bit later on this afternoon why the 5-day decs come out.
 
Desert Orchid said:
They seem to fancy The Jukebox Man for the King George so he'd be another potential G1 horse in the race but he seems friendless so probably doubts about getting there this weekend. We'll maybe know a wee bit later on this afternoon why the 5-day decs come out.
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He's not running.
 
Needless to say, I'm incredibly excited to see today's five-day confirmations - Bob Geldof didn't seem to like Mondays, but I do.
 
Yeah im the same with Jukebox out of the way there are a couple i like the look of Bad being one of them Conyers Hill would be another if Nolan sends it over.
 
Hunter Legend taken out of a possible engagement at Bangor on Wednesday today, so could well be that connections will see if he makes the cut for this.

He's only rated 129 but looks very progressive.
 
Yeah id seen something similar re the ground i thought there was some rain forecast for most of the week. But if an Irish trainer starts worrying about having a 7lb higher mark over here then you're never going to run.

Add to that that the things still out of the Hanidcap on his Irish mark you aim at a race how low do you want to sneak in ?

From what I can see he's up to 131 Irish and on 135 for the PP 2lb wrong in the handicap from that mark if the top one stays in.

Of course ive read that wrong hes talking about his other one.
 
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When I get the 5 days decs into my sys I'll do an initial run of the trial/pointer race report to see if any of the races have any standouts.
I don't look at my ratings seriously until the 48hr decs come out cos individual ratings for the race are partially influenced by others in the race so they don't settle down until it's the likely final line up and the jockeys are all known , cos I factor that in as well
 
Outsider said:
I've gone in again on Grandeur d'ame 40/1.
also entered in the coral/hennessey but that must be too far for him.
Ran well in the ultima on his only try at 3m + but weakened 2 out.
On a line through Moon d 'orange he has the beating of Riskintheground.
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Double loss.
 
You do you then. :rolleyes:

I thought it may well have been an angle that not every person had considered. Some courses do indeed suit front runners while some don't just as going changes can influence that too.
 
jinnyj said:
You do you then. :rolleyes:

I thought it may well have been an angle that not every person had considered. Some courses do indeed suit front runners while some don't just as going changes can influence that too.
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That article has been in the Racing Post in the last two decades in different forms.
 
Some right old withdrawals. Ive backed Conyers Hill aswell as Bad have them both equally at 18/1 . I reckon there will be enough rain for Nolan to send him.
 
Slim said:
That article is an embarrassment. Any idiot can tell you front runners have an edge. That's the type of article that really pisses me off. It's one of the strongest movers of the market pre race.
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The reverence for output from the racing media from some here, who actually know more about the game than the media do if they sit down and think about it, never ceases to baffle me.
 
One dissapointment from the decs is that Matata is still in and is now Topweight. I actually had him earmarked as a possible to turn Jon bon over on the Friday hopefully the burden of topweight convinces them to go that way instead. Heres something I put up on another forum earlier.

I was taking a look at Fridays card and for me there isn't too much of interest but it'd be nice to land a little something before we make the trip down. In the Shloer chase Jon bons back for more and generally a 2/5 poke he's as reliable as clockwork so that should be that or is it ? He won this first time out last year but was giving 2lb to Boothill and off levels with Edwardstone and you could've thrown a blanket over them at the finish. So is he vulnerable first time up here. Just for starters he's got to concede 6lb to both of them this time around which on bare form makes it a bit sticky. There are 2 though that won at this meeting last year. Leau du sud is the obvious one and 2nd favourite and hacked up in a Novice event here last year and was Pawras's bet of the day if I recall correctly. The one that interests me more though at the prices is Matata. He's also entered in the Paddy power atm but I can't believe that this race isn't the better option for him. He was disappointing first time up this year he was messy at some of his fences but still went well for a long way before fading very badly in the closing stages as if this time around the run was much needed. Calico won that race but as he had done the year before when Matata ran him very close but he then went on to reverse that form in no uncertain terms when they met at this meeting last year. Last time he was conceding 18lbs they meet again off levels and he gets 6lb from Jon bon as the rest of them do. I've never been into RPR's but have taken a little more note of them after someone I know seems to have put them to good use in recent times. Jon bon produced 164 here last year and in his other 4 races over the 2 mile chase course here he's recorded 164, 164,165 and 169 with the 169 being in November 2023. He's a 9yo knocking 10, 2 mile chaser I don't think he's going to get any quicker or better for that matter. Matata recorded a 158 at this meeting last year then his next 2 performances put up a 161 and 166 and he receives 6lb here and is only a 7yo. Jon bon aside on official ratings he's well in with everything else aside from Boothill and Edwardstone who he's on correct terms with but surely at their age both should be on the decline. Forgiving him a poor effort fto at the prices he'd have to be in with a shout.
 
Danny said:
One dissapointment from the decs is that Matata is still in and is now Topweight. I actually had him earmarked as a possible to turn Jon bon over on the Friday hopefully the burden of topweight convinces them to go that way instead. Heres something I put up on another forum earlier.

I was taking a look at Fridays card and for me there isn't too much of interest but it'd be nice to land a little something before we make the trip down. In the Shloer chase Jon bons back for more and generally a 2/5 poke he's as reliable as clockwork so that should be that or is it
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Jonbon very takeonable agreed. I've gone with Libberty Hunter who aside from missing the second was running a nice race in the QM before he came down. Ground will be softer Friday than it was in March which suits and he gets a handy bit of weight.
 

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