granger
Senior Jockey
Lossiemouth looked very good today at Fairyhouse
Ok, we have the prospect of a CH for the ages ie, the last two winners (one attempting a remarkable comeback); and two high-class pretenders.Perspective, please.
Third placed Beacon Edge is only rated 144 and was beaten less than ten lengths (9lbs) giving her 7lb. She needs to be 20lbs better than that to have any chance in the Champion Hurdle (which I think she has zero chance of running in, let alone winning).
And the oppo today was slow old boats better over further. She's the one with the speed.
In my cynical opinion, it was one of those races where connections of the opposition could fill their boots with an easy odds-on winner.
I am not sure what you mean hereIn my cynical opinion, it was one of those races where connections of the opposition could fill their boots with an easy odds-on winner
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The winning margin hardly rates her superiority.Perspective, please.
Third placed Beacon Edge is only rated 144 and was beaten less than ten lengths (9lbs) giving her 7lb. She needs to be 20lbs better than that to have any chance in the Champion Hurdle (which I think she has zero chance of running in, let alone winning).
No one knows more than Joe Donnelly who owns Sir Gino and State Man and if Sir Gino goes chasing you an bet Constitution Hill is spot on to make a comeback
.......but it is a long way removed from reality. Do you know who Brian Acheson is, do you know much he spends on horse racing, have you seem any of the emotional interviews he has given to RTE. If you think he would back an odds on shot against his own reigning Champion Stayer you are seriously deluded. We aren't talking about Wolverhampton on a Monday afternoon.But I am
.......but it is a long way removed from reality. Do you know who Brian Acheson is, do you know much he spends on horse racing, have you seem any of the emotional interviews he has given to RTE. If you think he would back an odds on shot against his own reigning Champion Stayer you are seriously deluded. We aren't talking about Wolverhampton on a Monday afternoon.
The person who said that was the Irish commentator Des Scahill -the context was a bet that APOB had with all profits going to the stable staff -it was well publicised at the time.Theatreworld was the horse in question -he was hard to get fit and even harder to win with -chasing a fast pace at Cheltenham was his thing -I suppose he was a poor mans Youmzain.I wasn't meaning the owners. People further down the food chain who don't get a cut from the prize money can make their money backing an opponent if they understand the stable rep is a gallop or two short.
But don't forget the comment from someone close to AOB after the stablemate ran on into third in one of Istabraq's CHs, speaking directly to AOB, "That's the gamble landed!" I remember it like it was this afternoon. So I do believe there is a lot of gambling involved among even the biggest stables and I've been following this game long enough to be hyper-cynical about what goes unseen.
I might be deluded/wrong/whatever; but I might not.
Here is a question that Jinny might answer-are many stable staff successful long term gamblers.I wasn't meaning the owners. People further down the food chain who don't get a cut from the prize money can make their money backing an opponent if they understand the stable rep is a gallop or two short.
But don't forget the comment from someone close to AOB after the stablemate ran on into third in one of Istabraq's CHs, speaking directly to AOB, "That's the gamble landed!" I remember it like it was this afternoon. So I do believe there is a lot of gambling involved among even the biggest stables and I've been following this game long enough to be hyper-cynical about what goes unseen.
I might be deluded/wrong/whatever; but I might not.
The person who said that was the Irish commentator Des Scahill -the context was a bet that APOB had with all profits going to the stable staff -it was well publicised at the time.Theatreworld was the horse in question -he was hard to get fit and even harder to win with -chasing a fast pace at Cheltenham was his thing -I suppose he was a poor mans Youmzain.
Do you remember the Japanese stable lads at Ballydoyle who were charged with laying stable runners -turned out they were guilty but actually lost money laying.
Here is a question that Jinny might answer-are many stable staff successful long term gamblers.
177 | CONSTITUTION HILL |
167 | STATE MAN |
163 | TEAHUPOO |
162 | BALLYBURN |
162 | IMPAIRE ET PASSE |
161 | IRISH POINT |
159 | BOB OLINGER |
158 | STRONG LEADER |
157 | BRIGHTERDAYSAHEAD (f) |
157 | FLOORING PORTER |
156 | HOME BY THE LEE |
156 | LANGER DAN |
156 | PIED PIPER |
155 | ASTERION FORLONGE |
154p | LOSSIEMOUTH (f) |
154 | BUDDY ONE |
154 | HIDDENVALLEY LAKE |
154 | JESSE EVANS |
153p | SIR GINO |
153 | BLAZING KHAL |
153 | CRAMBO |
153 | MYSTICAL POWER |