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From Alan Lee, The Times.

Racing has donned blinkers in a recession and the result could be calamitous. Its key revenue stream is in freefall, horse numbers are falling, trainers are imperilled and still more owners are soon to be driven away by promised cuts in prize money. The response of the industry? Put on yet more racing.
The 2010 fixture list was published yesterday and you couldn't make it up. Instead of prudent trimming against the imminent effects of financial meltdown, racing presented an increase of 13 in a dizzying schedule of 1,503 meetings. Yet they did so despite saying they knew it was wrong.
Ruth Quinn, racing director of the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), admitted: “We have grave reservations that this number of fixtures is not sustainable and we'll have to keep very close attention on developments.” Before, presumably, slamming that stable door when all the horses have long since bolted.
Some sympathy is due to Quinn and the BHA. Staggeringly, at least to the outside world, fixture lists are moulded by the leading bookmakers. They have systematically held racing to ransom through the iniquitous Levy process, demanding that meetings are held to a volume and schedule that satisfies their betting shops, rather than racecourses and racegoers.


The idea that racing and betting work together is risible. Bookmaker motives increasingly involve attracting customers to play their wretched fairground machines, rather than creating a fixture list that helps racing thrive. Now, with efforts to find a replacement for the Levy apparently stuck in the slow lane, racing is more than ever obliged to operate against its own best interests.
It shames many significant racing figures that they clung to the discredited Levy even when commercial alternatives were being sought. They are now reaping the whirlwind of a craven misjudgment. “The relationship between horse racing and betting through the Levy is badly broken,” Quinn confessed.
The 2010 Levy is forecast to produce £94 million, a crash of more than £20 million in a year. Prize money cuts of at least 5 per cent are mooted. And this at a time when owners are going bankrupt and trainers seeing numbers fall. Latest official figures show the racehorse population has dropped 2 per cent - and that was before the recession imposed itself.
Racing may be hamstrung in some areas but it has been weak in others. The collapse of Great Leighs offered an easy economy, yet instead scores of expendable fixtures were offered elsewhere.
Good Friday racing - one increase with obvious benefits - has been deferred again, yet winter evening and twilight meetings on the all-weather remain, a bookmaker demand with no discernible return for the sport. Bank holidays look better, Sundays not so.
The overall impression, though, is of naivety. In a recession, the accepted wisdom is that industries cut back. Airlines trim their flights, car factories reduce their output, simply because demand will fall and costs must be cut.
For racing to survey its already swollen programme, and decide to add still more, defies business logic. No good can come of it.
 
Absolutely spot on. John Fretwell was making some good points on RUK this afternoon, mainly moaning about bookmakers knocking him back though which is a debate for another time.

There is no way that this amount of racing is sustainable and it's for the over all bad of the game. The French have it much better (although I'm not sure many would favour a tote monopoly).
 
He said the only firm who will lay him nowadays is Ladbrokes. Had quite a decent interview with Lydia, whilst he had a case and I sympathised with him, he also couldn't seem to see the opposite side of the coin that bookmakers are businesses and charities. (Difficult to comment without seeing his spread of business)
 
I reckon the BHA are working on the principle that while times are hard people will bet more in the hope that a good win will solve there problems, of course it creates more which adds further revenue.
 
I reckon the BHA are working on the principle that while times are hard people will bet more in the hope that a good win will solve there problems, of course it creates more which adds further revenue.
As pointed out above, the BHA aren't working on any principle here; they are simply in thrall to the big bookmakers. At least they are honest enough to express their reservations about the relationship.
 
Just think - if Great Leighs hadn't gone under, it would've been even more even more! The 2010 schedule includes 28 for the new course, Ffos Las, essentially in lieu of GL, but one assumes that if GL had survived, that 1,503 would've been 1,531 with no trouble at all.

Yes, that is too much racing, and the BHA is clearly toothless in the face of the hold over racing which bookmakers have. Those which the gods would destroy, they first make mad - and the gods of betting are indeed turning racing into a mad world.

However, there is a solution, and it's very simple. As pretty much any racing forum's membership will earnestly avow, it's the betting public which keeps racing going. Therefore, in order to stop the bookies imposing their mad designs on the sport and forcing more and more meetings instead of fewer - DON'T BET! Boycott the bookies - dump the Dennises and show them who's really running racing - YOU, the punter! Once their ludicrously bloated profits shrivel, they'll lay off staff, close shops, face bankruptcy, and demand that the fixtures list be culled so that some of them can hang onto their livelihoods - even if it means not changing the Merc for another year or two.
 
Absolutely spot on. John Fretwell was making some good points on RUK this afternoon, mainly moaning about bookmakers knocking him back though which is a debate for another time.

There is no way that this amount of racing is sustainable and it's for the over all bad of the game. The French have it much better (although I'm not sure many would favour a tote monopoly).
He didn't exactly endear himself to the people he's trying to get on with though.

It would be fair to say that IMHO Fretwell would not be backing the drifters that he owns and as we all know he loves a gamble in a seller.

Would he lay owners bets in those kind of races?
 
Of course the answer is simple. Get rid of bookmakers. Colin says maybe not too many people will be in favour of it but we shouldn't run things on consensus. We should run things on what's best for the sport. Once racing settled down without bookmakers - and it might take a few years - people will see the benefits and realise how they'd been duped for generations nto believing racing needed them. It doesn't.
 
Racing is on the back foot with the bookmakers because of its declining share (rapidly) of the betting market. There will possibly come a day when football has a bigger slice than racing and most bookies will welcome that

Racing is increasingly unappealing to the public as a betting medium. It is seen as bent and seedy and frankly just a bit dated and tired. Jockeys hobnobbing with filth, abuses through exchanges , trainers treating the public like its "none of their business", a worn class ridden tweedy image and alarming sliding interest from the media are some of the reasons

A lot of those perceptions are over the top of course, but they are set in the publics mind
 
Totally agree they are set in the public perception, but lets face it there is no smoke without fire!
 
Racing is on the back foot with the bookmakers because of its declining share (rapidly) of the betting market. There will possibly come a day when football has a bigger slice than racing and most bookies will welcome that

Racing is increasingly unappealing to the public as a betting medium. It is seen as bent and seedy and frankly just a bit dated and tired. Jockeys hobnobbing with filth, abuses through exchanges , trainers treating the public like its "none of their business", a worn class ridden tweedy image and alarming sliding interest from the media are some of the reasons

A lot of those perceptions are over the top of course, but they are set in the publics mind

Not OTT at all. In fact you tell it exactly the way it is. I sometimes think racing insiders see racing as their revenge on the unwashed for us depriving them of their fun watching foxes getting ripped to shreds.
 
I think you are right HT :)

Also, the jumping on the countryside alliance bandwagon was surely a bit counterproductive too. There isnt a great deal of sympathy for disgracefully subsidsed farmers on the one hand and "you townies dont understand" inbreds on the other. Sport should always look to break down barriers not put them up and a large chunk of the population find the CA repulsive

not helped by the clear and obvious support on c4 by a bunch of backward idiots whos sense of humour stopped developing with the last Carry on film
 
Also, the jumping on the countryside alliance bandwagon was surely a bit counterproductive too. There isnt a great deal of sympathy for disgracefully subsidsed farmers on the one hand and "you townies dont understand" inbreds on the other. Sport should always look to break down barriers not put them up and a large chunk of the population find the CA repulsive

Again spot on clivex.
 
This shows racing has to decide which boat it sits in. Is it a sports industry or a country pursuit and pastime. It will or should I say cannot be a pastime otherwise it will fade into obscurity over time and will have the same popularity and commercial arm akin to the pony club
 
It can't sit in the country pursuit section without funding - without the betting side of the sport (which is what draws in the sponsorship, prize money, profile of the sport in this country) and as such it would just end up as small point-to-point's run on a farmers field.

As a betting medium it no longer has the importance that it used to - betting on football has now overtaken racing in a number of global nations and will (if it hasn't already) eventually be like that in the UK. You only need to look at how much is matched on Betfair on a big race on a Saturday - £2-3m and compare it with that of how much is matched on a televised Premiership game - upwards of £10m to see the difference.
 
I think you are right HT :)

Also, the jumping on the countryside alliance bandwagon was surely a bit counterproductive too. There isnt a great deal of sympathy for disgracefully subsidsed farmers on the one hand and "you townies dont understand" inbreds on the other. Sport should always look to break down barriers not put them up and a large chunk of the population find the CA repulsive

not helped by the clear and obvious support on c4 by a bunch of backward idiots whos sense of humour stopped developing with the last Carry on film

Absolutely spot on Clive. How Alice Plunkett kept her job after her party political rant on the Morning Line one morning is beyond me. I don't care about the arguments of the Hunting Ban, a 21st century sport should not be aligning itself with an illegal activity.
 
The activity from which the sport came into existence, or don't you remember that bit?

Like it or not, large percentages of the racing fraternity are behind the CA 100%. If so many people hate the CA and want to see the back of it I'd be interested to hear explanations as to why Countryside days are so popular, why the hounds always get a very enthusiastic reception and how on earth point to pointing has survived?

Some people can't see the wood for the trees.
 
And football came from kicking a decapitated head around

Im sure that large parts of the football community are hang em flog em merchants, but we dont need it rammed down our throats. It might just occur to FIFA and UEFA that if football started banging on with a political message a large number of followers would inevtiably be alienated

Talk about missing the point...

But Gamla...i entirely agree. Thankfully i didnt see that rant, but surely plenty of those who are ambivalent about hunting would have not been impressed with yet another country yah hoo talking down to us townies. And (didnt she also once sneer "who cares what the punters think?"), is a large part of the problem

Shes a dire presenter too
 
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We're talking about a fixtures list which has risen in mainly FLAT racing, and I'm not interested in the slightest about the CA. Racing didn't piggyback the CA - it was the other way round, in an attempt to save fox hunting, which has, in fact, been successful, thanks to a total fudge by the Labour Govt. (Gasp! Swoon!) So please get past these diversions - they're not helpful and they don't seem to worry the tens of thousands of 'fun punters' who love Aintree and Cheltenham.

Toobe - do you have any connection to racing, i.e. work in a yard or in some sort of racing-oriented organisation? You seem to be making a number of sweeping statements about 'racing' when there is no connection between the Flat and NH, they even run under different rules, and while there are many sneering detractors about AW, it is a third way which is very popular with many people, and nothing at all to do with your perceptions of 'racing' as gymkhana fare.

It's a multi-national, multi-billion ££ enterprise. It is a sport which is also an industry, just like football, supporting tens of thousands of jobs and businesses directly and peripherally. Last time I checked, the Pony Club isn't and doesn't. You ought to know that, yet seemingly you don't.

It's in no danger of collapsing (sorry, catastrophists, to disappoint you), but the increase in the fixtures list isn't good news on many fronts. The best thing for some smaller or less successful trainers will be, like Philip Mitchell, to get out of training and to get into transportation - because, by God, those horseboxes are going to be mighty busy!
 
Does anyone seriously think that were there to be no countryside days nor the CA allowed anywhere near a racecourse that people would start flocking to the racecourses and suddenly become avid racing supporters in their tens, and hundreds, and thousands? Cos that ain't gonna happen; it's just another excuse to get in a few more anti-foxhunting/CA rants. Perversely, the assertions that any association with the CA are seriously damaging the sport are not borne out by any evidence whatsoever, not least when the countryside days remain so poular and well attended!

I wonder how many people know that the Countryside Alliance does not exist merely to fight the hunting ban? It is an organisation that seeks to preserve the countryside and its ways and traditions.
 
It only has to be marginally damaging to the sport to be an issue. If Millwall had a BNP day, you could be sure that the FA would have something to say about it.... Might be seen as not a good advet for the game....

politics and sport do mix of course but should not mix unnessesarily
 
The activity from which the sport came into existence, or don't you remember that bit?

Like it or not, large percentages of the racing fraternity are behind the CA 100%. If so many people hate the CA and want to see the back of it I'd be interested to hear explanations as to why Countryside days are so popular, why the hounds always get a very enthusiastic reception and how on earth point to pointing has survived?

Some people can't see the wood for the trees.

It may have come from those field sports supported by the CA, the problem is those field sports cannot maintain it, which lets face it, most of which are already being subsidised. If racing holds on to too many traditions it could end up shooting itself in the foot.
 
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