A Question For The Irish Contingent

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It is my understanding that the phrase Pogue Mahone means Kiss My Arse.

If this is the case, does this also mean that persons with the surname Mahoney, Mahon and other derivatives thereof are actually Arses?

Fortunately (for them), I know no one of this nomenclature.
 
I dont know about the names. I'd have my doubts. But I suppose it is possible. Wasnt Malcolm Bastard a jockey in england in the eighties?

The term is "pog mo h'on" Cant put accents (fadas) in. Pog (pogue) being kiss, mo (muh) being "my", and h'on (hone) being "arse" in Irish.

I meant to put this up for some forum contributors who claimed to be interested previously

Gan Eagla (gone ogg la) = Without Fear
Dun An Doras (doon on durr ass) = Shut the door
Na Bac Leis (Naw bok lesh) = Dont mind him (ignore him)

There was another that I cant think of.
 
I would have thought Saorsie (sear sha) meant "Freedom" but I could be corrected on that, as on many.
 
The derivation of Mahoney, McMahon (and Vaughan) is nothing to do with "arse". (Some may say "sadly" in the case of Johnny V)

Mahon comes from the Gaelic Mathuna meaning a bear.

The Mahoney or Mahony family stem from Mathuna, a grandson of Brian Boru. The family were the Eoganacht, the regal dynasty of Munster.

The name is one of the 100 most common in Ireland, particularly in Counties Cork and Clare.

Cork, of course, being where all the best people come from...
 
I'm nearly sure that Fianna Fail is translated as "Soldiers of Destiny", and their establishment was in direct oppostion to the Free State Party ( those of Michael Collins, and those willing to accept the Irish Free State (eventually the 26 counties of Eire)) - now Fine Gael.

Saor - means free in monetary terms as well on the gaelic sporting field. "Puc Saor" (free hit in hurling)

Puc Fada = long puck, a competition held in the Cooley mountains between waterford and cork ( i think, even though the Cooley peninsula is in Louth??) where competitors see how long it takes them to puck a sliotar a set distance. Dont want to put up what I think it is for fear of embarrasment. Fewest pucks win.

Brian, I'm a bit dozy this morning. There was a Mahony kid in my class at school and was indeed called O' Mathuna in irish. Didnt know that it was related to Vaughan or came from bear. ( I think there was a famous general in Napoleon's army called McMahon which always struck me as odd. Maybe not napoleons but definitely french.

And so I ramble on.
 
"I think there was a famous general in Napoleon's army called McMahon"
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I've always been rather tickled that the first Chilean head of state was called Bernardo O'Higgins. He had been a revolutionary leader and he commanded the military forces that won independence from Spain.

He was the illegitimate son of Ambrosio O'Higgins, a Spanish officer who came originally from County Meath, who became governor of Chile and later viceroy of Peru. His mother was Isabel Riquelme, a prominent lady of Chillán in Chile. Spanish government officials wer not allowed to marry locals, so Bernardo was brought up by his mother's family, although his father supported him financially and funded his education, which was completed in London.
 
funny thing that always got me about the horses name is that I think freedom in irish should be spelt saoirse and as far as i know saorsie isnt an irish word.
 
General (or was he Marechal) MacMahon went on to become Prime Minister of France. Avenue MacMahon in Paris is one of the many thoroughfares radiating out from the Arc de Triomphe.
 
He was actually President rather than Prime Minister, from 1873 to 1879.
His full name was Marie Edmé Patrice Maurice MacMahon, duc de Magenta. His family had settled in France (from Limerick, though originally they were from Clare) in the mid 1600s and his grandfater had been ennobled by Louis XV. He is the only person of Irish descent to have been head of state of a country in continental Europe. That's so far - if Spain is looking, suny, I could be available...
 
Far too left wing for suny ! Now if a 79 year old former MP for Finchley were to want the job .......
 
Garney, if Dan reads in he'll be oiling his baseball bat. The Cooley Mountains are of course in Louth.

To answer the original question (among a veritable sea of googling), the Irish for 'arse' is of course, 'an thommo.'

AC
 
Continuing on from translations and translations by arses, how about Tommo's translation of "Deoch an dorais" when he was commentating on the afore mentioned animal...........basically means a late drink after hours but according to the Tommo dictionary it means "shut that door"!!
Strange I haven't met anyone else who is familiar with that dialect.
 
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