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S'cuse my ignorance but I only ever have single ew bets. If I do an ew accumulator, does every horse have to be placed or will I get money back if some of them do?
 
Thanks. I think I did one once before and didn't win anything, but couldn't remember what happened. The horses I'm looking at at the moment haven't got good enough prices for the tiny bets that I have.
 
It's not something I want to do, but once in the UK I rang a telephone bet through from the pub and had an EW treble on, i was paid out as equally divided rather than win to win and place to place (luckily that worked in my favour).

Not that I want to go that way with EW doubles or EW ACC's (like the idea of a large pick up instead). Is there a way to do equally divided online? Can't say I've noticed it, but I've never looked either.
 
CPGagie said:
It's not something I want to do, but once in the UK I rang a telephone bet through from the pub and had an EW treble on, i was paid out as equally divided rather than win to win and place to place (luckily that worked in my favour).

Not that I want to go that way with EW doubles or EW ACC's (like the idea of a large pick up instead). Is there a way to do equally divided online? Can't say I've noticed it, but I've never looked either.
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If you find anyone who will lay you equally divided multiples on racing or sports make sure nobody follows you...
 
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The horses I was looking at finished 1,2,0,3,1,1; I didn't have a bet. If you never hear from me again it's cause I've shot myself for cowardice.
 
CPGagie said:
Not that I want to go that way with EW doubles or EW ACC's (like the idea of a large pick up instead). Is there a way to do equally divided online? Can't say I've noticed it, but I've never looked either.
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You could specify 'all each way' for equally divided multiples back in the day. Doubt you'll find many offering that nowadays and certainly not online


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I don't suppose it matters, as you could (time permitting) just do it yourself.

The only real advantage of the EW double, EW ACC's is the compounded place odds. A couple of 5/2 place certs in a win to win and place to place double for example.
 
viking said:
You could specify 'all each way' for equally divided multiples back in the day. Doubt you'll find many offering that nowadays and certainly not online


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I was talking lately to BrianH lwho was a regular on here for years. He was reminiscing about bad e/w in the good ol' days...

You'd have loved it in the old days - a quarter of the odds 1,2,3 8 runners or more and a third of the odds 1,2 in short fields.
Have I got some stories to tell!

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Don't forget about the 10% tax though.

Saying that, I recall the tax going and immediately the over rounds shooting up to levels that seemed criminal.
 
SlimChance said:
I was talking lately to BrianH lwho was a regular on here for years. He was reminiscing about bad e/w in the good ol' days...

You'd have loved it in the old days - a quarter of the odds 1,2,3 8 runners or more and a third of the odds 1,2 in short fields.
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Cannot buy this at all, I'm afraid; this retrospection of the "good ol' days" is rose-tinted glasses stuff.
Back in the '70's, I was paying 20% tax on stake. A limit of 100/1 applied to all trebles and acca's. If there was an odds-runner in a race, the price of the winner was a top limit of 3/1. Race-reading was a luxury none of us could indulge in because the only way to experience a race off-course was to listen to the Extel commentary on the tannoy in a smoke-filled and manky bookie office.
On-course, things weren't much better. Getting on at a board price was an exercise in pure frustration; board prices were a sham ballyhoo.

The present-day punter has never had it so good. That's for fact.
Form, stats, going, and update information is freely accessible in real-time. You are betting into a Betfair 101% over-round book as against the old-school 140% which was the norm.
Any punter who can't make this game pay in the current environment wouldn't have had a prayer in the good ol' days.

(Has to said too, it was always 1/5 odds (not 1/4) in non-HCP 8-or-more runners back in the day............)
 
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"If there was an odds-runner in a race, the price of the winner was a top limit of 3/1."

I don't follow?

"Any punter who can't make this game pay in the current environment wouldn't have had a prayer in the good ol' days."

To me the 'good ol' days' would have been the early 90's when there was half as much racing to follow/rate. To me it was easier to make it pay.

It was harder work for sure, but if you were prepared to sit up late flicking back and forth between pages, watching re-runs of races you'd recorded off the TV, and then get up at the crack of dawn to go to the Newsagent to get the sporting life (didn't like waiting for paperboys to turn up at irregular times), then nipping down to the local bookies to grab their 15 minute guaranteed EP's, it did seem easier.

I was fit then, and could just run between 3 Ladbrokes shops before any gambles started. :) The final port of call was where I'd sit and watch yesterdays replays and scribble any notes down. I was also going though a period of actually drawing the courses in 3D, like a roller coaster track, so I'd try to get information for that side project also, as back then course maps were plan view only with brief descriptions.

Happy days.
 
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CPGagie said:
"If there was an odds-runner in a race, the price of the winner was a top limit of 3/1."

I don't follow?
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Apologies! Typo.
That should, of course, have read "odds-on runner".
Believe it or not, if there was a, say, 1/4 runner in a race and you backed a 7/1 second favourite which eventually won, then, you would get paid at a limited price of 3/1. This was a regular house-policy in many independent betting offices.
 
Thats outrageous! So if there was an odds on runner, they went 3/1 the rest? (or 5/2 in Colin instance)?

Why bother pricing them up?
 
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Across the card doubles were also subject to a payout limit if there was less then 15 minutes between off times.Double result was rarely offered -even though the shop closest to me had it since the 70's.
 
icebreaker said:
Cannot buy this at all, I'm afraid; this retrospection of the "good ol' days" is rose-tinted glasses stuff.
Back in the '70's, I was paying 20% tax on stake. A limit of 100/1 applied to all trebles and acca's. If there was an odds-runner in a race, the price of the winner was a top limit of 3/1. Race-reading was a luxury none of us could indulge in because the only way to experience a race off-course was to listen to the Extel commentary on the tannoy in a smoke-filled and manky bookie office.
On-course, things weren't much better. Getting on at a board price was an exercise in pure frustration; board prices were a sham ballyhoo.

The present-day punter has never had it so good. That's for fact.
Form, stats, going, and update information is freely accessible in real-time. You are betting into a Betfair 101% over-round book as against the old-school 140% which was the norm.
Any punter who can't make this game pay in the current environment wouldn't have had a prayer in the good ol' days.

(Has to said too, it was always 1/5 odds (not 1/4) in non-HCP 8-or-more runners back in the day............)
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Good post.
 
The 1k limit on multiples on evening racing, meant I was 6.5k lighter than I thought, after getting five winners up.

Never knew there was a limit until I was shown the small print on the board.

I used to be told the "Liverpool Round The Clock", was a decent form of multiple that certain bookies won't take.

I've googled it and still don't understand it, so if any you intelligent guys won't to explain I would appreciate it.
 
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