British Woman sentenced to death in Bali

yes..some other countries take spreading cancer amongst society very seriously..nice to see it tbh..shame we don't start adopting a similar policy..the rot caused by drugs in our society is extremely sad and damaging
 
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EC1 said:
yes..some other countries take spreading cancer amongst society very seriously..nice to see it tbh..shame we don't start adopting a similar policy..the rot caused by drugs in our society is extremely sad and damaging
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Do you define alcohol as a "cancer", EC1, and do you advocate simar punishment for "peddlers" of same??
 
I would argue that it's the prohibition of drugs which causes the crime and spreads the cancer rather than the drugs themselves, many of which are virtually harmless, and in some cases quite fun.

However, to smuggle 5kg of coke in your case in SE Asia you'd need to be stupid or coerced. Assuming they've ruled out the latter she deserves everything she gets.
 
http://www.news.com.au/world/britis...ocaine-smuggling/story-fndir2ev-1226559509016

Am surprised she got through Bangkok, Thailand first. :blink:

Although I am not an advocate of the death penalty, it is pretty common universal knowledge that drugs smuggling in South East Asia, notably Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam and Indonesia has severe penalties and it is not tolerated.

When I was in Malaysia it was written in red bold writing that human trafficking and drug trafficking if caught are mandatory death sentence.

The Jolly Hangman of Singapore is a very intriguing read on the death penalty in Singapore for anyone interested, on their NO tolerance policy.
 
Watching the news it seems as if the authorities wanted her to cough to the crime and she would get 15 years,when her defence was that she had been set up they took an almost stubborn stance and she as got the death penalty.Rough Justice maybe? I don't agree with the death penalty for smuggling drugs but she should have longer than 15 years.The woman must have a screw loose to do that in that part of the world.
For what it's worth they won't execute her,it looks terrible on their country to execute a foreign national.Whatever the impact that drug smuggling has on tourism there if they start putting people in body bags it doesn't scream 'Welcome to Bali!'
 
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Shes not the problem, its the untouchable cartel or gang leaders as always. Mules and carriers will always be in plenty supply
 
Reminds me of that film/series? with Nicole Kidman - Bankok Hilton. Excellent film in its time and so nail-biting.
 
Anybody who could knowingly carry drugs past those blood chilling signs in the airports of the Far East, in big red letters,
saying the penalty for drug trafficking is death, followed by a skull and crossbones must be a nutter
 
Roddy Owen said:
Anybody who could knowingly carry drugs past those blood chilling signs in the airports of the Far East, in big red letters,
saying the penalty for drug trafficking is death, followed by a skull and crossbones must be a nutter
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Is it in English?
 
For once, I agree with harry. Almost always the people caught are desperate, forced or just not very bright. There will always be a limitless supply of such people and even the death penalty wont stop it. You need to go after the top people. This is little more than a thoughtless, barbaric PR stunt. Ridiculous to think it will deter the desperate, the forced or the plain stupid.
 
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harry said:
Is it in English?
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Here are the signs, clear as a sore thumb if you ask me:

INDONESIA courtesy of Human Rights and Drugs
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BALI (INDONESIA) courtesy of Acclaim Images
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REPUBLIC OF CHINA (TAIWAN) courtesy of wikimedia
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Grasshopper said:
Do you define alcohol as a "cancer", EC1, and do you advocate simar punishment for "peddlers" of same??
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when people are so desperate for a drink..that they break into my home to take the f00k all i've got..so they can buy a 4 pack ..yes:)

the ends people will go to to fuel a drug addiction is slightly different to alcholol in the effects its has on the country

i'll just make my position clear..i don't care wtf anyone does..its totally their business..as what i do is mine...they can take what they like ..drugs drink..bostic..petrol...BUT when that habit THEY have got increases crime where i live..which usually means old or vulnerable people getting burgled or mugged...then its time to do something about it

all this..people have the right to do just what they want..is totally fine with me..until they infringe on other people's lives. My habits and vices don't bother anyone..and i expect the same from others.

sorry if thats offensive or deemed wrong in our soft arsed society;)
 
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harry said:
Shes not the problem, its the untouchable cartel or gang leaders as always. Mules and carriers will always be in plenty supply
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so what shall we do..just leave them to it?

yes of course we should get the main men..but you can't just let folks off because they are as thick as sh1te

if someone goes round bombing shopping areas you couldn't just let em off because..ooh they only lackies..and as thick as last weeks gravy
 
It`s not a question of letting them off....I don`t think 15 years in a Bali jail is letting anybody off.
What purpose is served by executing them? It`s obviously not going to have any impact at all on the drug problem. Governments would do better to seek out the corrupt politicians and police who "allow" the cartels to flourish, rather than seek popularity by executing the desperate and the stupid.
 
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so what shall we do..just leave them to it?

yes of course we should get the main men..but you can't just let folks off because they are as thick as sh1te

if someone goes round bombing shopping areas you couldn't just let em off because..ooh they only lackies..and as thick as last weeks gravy
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If you read my post, you will not find anything about letting her off??
She is not the root cause of this problem,thats all
 
harry said:
She is not the root cause of this problem,thats all
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This is quite typical of the modern attitude of always blaming something else for a person's criminality -- they came from a dysfunctional background; they are poor so they rob/burgle; society has no "respect" for them etc etc.
Of course this woman is responsible for the situation she finds herself in -- she was caught smuggling a shedload of lethal drugs into the country.
It's unfashionable nowadays to suggest that a person takes responsibility for their own actions. Blame something -- or someone -- else.
 
Nobody is saying she`s not responsible for her own actions or that she shouldn`t be punished. Just that the punishment is ridiculously excessive and does absolutely nothing to tackle the real problem.
 
And I'm not saying that she should be hanged !
I'm simply questioning the "She is not the root cause of this problem" position of the previous poster.
 
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