Catherine Tate

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Originally posted by Desert Orchid@Nov 4 2006, 01:25 AM
Maybe I'm watching the wrong Friends? In the one I (occasionally) see, Joey is trying to have sex with every female. One-night stands and sex on the first date are portrayed as entirely normal (which means I don't think they should be normal), etc etc.

Yes much of it is done within a comedy context and I don't have a problem with it being on after the watershed. If I remember correctly, it was originally shown some time later than 5pm. It's only shown at that time now because most people know what it's all about.

People forget that teachers often have to pick up the pieces when kids end up emotionally (and sometimes physically) scarred becaue they've been watching this stuff and go out and copy it. Girls end up pregnant because sex is portrayed as glamourous. Boys think it's OK to try to sh*g every female becaue Joey does.

If that makes me a prude, then I'm happy to be a prude.
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It does'nt make you prude, it makes you niave. Kids will go out and do these things either way, with or without TV shows.
 
I'm not so naive as to believe things are as you're interpreting them. I certainly thnk you'r reading far too much into my postings. My fault perhaps.

I was a teenager myself believe it or not and I know all about the urges. However, what I'm saying is that I believe TV programmes that portray liberal attitudes to sex and, dare I say it, promiscuity, are a factor in the increased numbers of sexually active teenagers which will almost guarantee an increase in teen pregnancies.

I do think parenting is a more important factor. I get the impression too many parents are afraid to set an example to their kids for fear of losing their friendship but that's probably for another thread.
 
Originally posted by Desert Orchid@Nov 4 2006, 07:02 AM
I was a teenager myself believe it or not and I know all about the urges. However, what I'm saying is that I believe TV programmes that portray liberal attitudes to sex and, dare I say it, promiscuity, are a factor in the increased numbers of sexually active teenagers which will almost guarantee an increase in teen pregnancies.
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Then you believe wrongly
 
Originally posted by Ardross@Nov 2 2006, 07:50 AM
There appears to be a reaction to her and the critics are now slagging her off.
I have to admit I think she is brilliant -any other views ?
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About as funny as piles and twice as irritating.
 
Either that or you could stop with the biblical pronouncements that what you say must be right.
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There are a few people on this forum who are more guilty than Euronymus of that! One in particular.
 
Originally posted by Euronymous@Nov 4 2006, 08:11 AM
Teenagers have always and will always be far more influenced by their peers than any tv programmes.
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So what are their peers influenced by?

OF COURSE TV influences kids, as does everything else they encounter

If you can keep the respect of your kids and keep them talking to you and asking your advice, or at least listening to it, that's most of the battle.
 
I'd have thought that 'Friends' was a bit old for teenagers, as it's aimed at the working 20s. Surely MTV, bands and singers, young sports stars, things like Grange Hill, and the plethora of magazines aimed specifically at the pre-working generation would influence them more?

Teenaged boys seem to pick up on their sporting or entertainment heroes like Beckham and Robbie Williams for their hairstyling, clothing, etc., while the girls will pick out models, film stars and MTV stars for theirs. Your parents fade into the background as you begin to experiment with styling yourself (yes, 20 years later you WILL realise what a dork you looked, when your own kids fall laughing helplessly to the floor at the photos... ) and trying to develop a voice in the world. But you do always want them there when you've just had a row with your bestest ever friend in all the world, and everybody hates you. Blimey, am I glad I'm not 15 again!
 
Originally posted by PDJ@Nov 2 2006, 09:50 PM
Can I? Cheers. I must make sure I do that then..... Either that or you could stop with the biblical pronouncements that what you say must be right.

Surely you didn't find the crap efforts at tennis and curling by the same character funny? They were all rubbish.
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agreed those two were cheap shots. but the translator one by the same character, was brilliant i thought.

its simular to little brittain IMo as it has some reall good sketches, but some poor ones to.
 
Originally posted by krizon@Nov 9 2006, 07:05 AM
I'd have thought that 'Friends' was a bit old for teenagers, as it's aimed at the working 20s. Surely MTV, bands and singers, young sports stars, things like Grange Hill, and the plethora of magazines aimed specifically at the pre-working generation would influence them more?
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According to a C4 executive responsible for schools programmes, teenagers are more drawn to how 20/30yos are portrayed because that's what they aspire to. Teenagers portrayed on TV attract a younger audience, 7-11yos.
 
I would echo that. I have younger sister who was obsessed with Friends in her early teens - had every video boxset etc. but grew out of it by the age of 15/16 or so. (I know because with it went the cast-iron, sure to be well received, xmas present that required little thought!)

Perhaps it was the dawning realisation that New York appartment living and shopping in Bloomingdales can't actually be achieved on a coffee waitress' salary?
 
I must say "Friends" wouldn't have been a programme high on my list of proscribed viewing for a teenager - it actively promoted many valued qualities rather than the reverse but it's all a matter of opinion and individual core values.

I couldn't subscribe to the Catholic faith under any circumstances and would not have sent my son to a school that actively promoted it, so it's all just a matter of individual perception.
 
TV does influence teenagers to some extent. I remember being fixated with certain programmes & wanted them to be real & even be in it myself, ha! but life evolves and certain things happen which wake you up to reality. for me it was a few bereavements & i soon realised i had to be out there earning cash and watching tv wasnt going to make me any money.

this might sound rich, but i say it with much caution, an example of kids being influenced by tv is the Jamie Bulger killers. they re-inacted what they had saw on the tv. if that isnt proof then i dont know what is.
 
DO - well, I defer to the infinitely more knowledgeable head of a Channel Four executive in matters televisual, but you're hardly going to dismiss all of the other influences I mentioned, are you?
 
In the interest of fairness I just finished watching a full episode of the how. If the Irish nurse scene had been targetted at West Indians or Muslims there would be questions in Parliament - although let me add it was the only part of the show mildly amusing.

What is remotely funny about a lonely womansphantom pregnancy I will die trying to understand.
 
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