Champions Day

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trudij

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I've got two grandstand tickets and invites to the party after if anyone would like them? I've got them for doing the racemaker thing - but im meant to be away that weekend and IT seems a shame to waste them.... I've been lucky enough to gain from generous people before and it's my turn to pay it forward :)

First come can have them :)
 
Might take them off you trudj. If someone is gagging for them I will step aside though but happily use them
 
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Looking forward to going - booked my tickets ages back when they were offering £15 off premiere badges!
 
Using this thread to go onto the racing I am sure it will be a great day again but the rest of the end of the season has turned into a complete dog's dinner - most of all Future Champions Day - a back of a fag packet idea of an idiot.
 
If the ground is soft I cannot see Australia or TGG turning up for the Champion .

Cirrus won last week and we know he tends to improve no end after the Dollar - before his Coronation Cup injury he had been in supreme form this spring beating Treve . Olympic Glory and Flintshire . He looks a mad price to me compared to Free Eagle who has it to prove at this level although his G3 win was spectacular .
 
The ground is already soft.
Noble Mission will run well. Wish ROTW had skipped Longchamp.

Can see Tonto being in the 3 in the mile.
 
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So are there any actual Champions running on Saturday? Still going but feeling like its all an anti climax now - surely they have to move it to before the Arc?
 
Cirrus Des Aigles I would say is a Champion. I think he's worth taking on at the price though. ROTW was only half a length behind him in the race last year but is 7/1 as opposed to 6/4.
 
Granted CDA is a Champion but with the ground going to be on the heavy side of soft what size fields are they going to be looking at? Just feeling a little deflated by the whole thing - its expensive enough to racing even if we did get discounts on the tickets.
 
Wouldn't bank on it, Euro; there's talk of pulling him if the ground gets too bad.

Now Maarek is one serious horse when it's fetlock deep.
 
It is no surprise the ground is heavy - I can recall far more soft and heavy ground meetings at Ascot in October than good ground meetings.

I think they would be much better off returning the meeting to the old QEII day but I bet the EPC won't allow the Champion Stakes to be run a week before the Arc and two weeks after Irish Champions Day
 
Disagree with some of the negativity about Champions day.

The first two Champions Days had the champion stayer, miler and 10f horses of that year with a very strong bunch of fillies and mares in their race as well; Dancing Rain was probably the best filly in 2011 in the UK. Admittedly last year was so so but it was always going to be in the post Frankel era. The Arc was a fairly average race this year, competitive, but no more than an average Arc with an above average winner. The rest of the day was full of good horses but not champions.

Stick with it I say. Ascot is a great venue and my only wish is that there was a 2yo race on the day.
 
Given Free Eagles participation is in doubt, is the 6/4 about Cirrus on Heavy ground a gift? He is a monster when heavy is in the going description; his smallest winning margin on that ground is 8 lengths. He's a few lbs better than his official rating on heavy.

In terms of the opposition, admirable as Noble Mission is, he was beating good ground horses on early season soft ground when he was thriving. The rest of the field are pretty average whilst Cirrus is clearly still as good as ever, his Coronation win looks better after the Arc and if Free Eagle doesn't show (And I don't think he will) 6/4 is value. Even if Free Eagle does show up, he's going to have to be a 128 horse minimum on heavy ground on only his 4th start against hardened warriors.

Ive had a decent bet on Cirrus anyway.
 
If the ground is heavy, Cirrus will have an easy task, especially if Free eagle is a non runner.


the queii looks a weak edition too, Night Of Thunder is the best horse in the field and I think he is a soft ground horse, should be much shorter
 
Dont get me wrong I am excited to be going racing generally but there is no way that this year the title matches the actual racing - its currently chucking it down here in Notting Hill and my garden would be classed as soft heavy in places right now but another couple of hours and its def due a going change to heavy all round.

Small fields with big priced winners is what I am predicting!
 
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