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Aldaniti

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Don't suppose anyone is going are they?

I've been a dog lover for many years but last year was my first trip & to be honest I was a little disapointed but not sure why if that makes any sense shrug::

I'm going this year as I really want to see the gundogs as we now have Harvey who is a show type cocker, not interested in showing him but it is nice to see what he may or may not turn out like (apart from a gobby little sod!)

Anyway at least it gives me the chance to go & cuddle a great dane :what:
 
I went a few years ago on Gundog day purely for the shopping! My dog trainer was showing her Irish Water Spaniel so it was nice to see them too but mainly I was there to buy lots of goodies for my mutts. I watched a bit of the judging and admired lots of Clumber, Sussex & Field spaniels :wub:
 
I cant go cos I cant get the time off - but Ive shown tere and done a demonstration with my spaniel - i f you go there to show its one hell of a long day.I enjoyed it though - but it was a bit too doggie ( if that makes sense - but Im the only person I know who ated Newmmarket for bneing too horsey!!) for my liking.

Katy had a massage before her class though - so she had a great time - plus when wed go for our walksround the show id get bombarded with freebees - didnt have to buy any food for a fortnight after!!!


Have a grand time Helen - give the hoverwart a big hug for me in the discover dogs section - and if you take a camera - can you get me a pic of a Nova Scotia Duck Toling Retriever? Ive shown my mum the pics on teh KC website - but havent yet found her a "real" pic!!

Thanks :)
 
Okay, okay, I give in. What is a hoverwart, and what on earth happens during 'duck toling'? Do the ducks like being toled?
 
A, Breed of Dog

B, Pass :laughing:

I've been debating on wether to take my camera as its a long day & I'll get the arse ach with it hanging around my neck :shy: I still have my little digital compact which is about the same size as a ciggy packet but slimmer so I will probably take that rather than nothing,

The Discover dogs section was a nightmare last year as you could not move :angy: but this year they have made Crufts a lot larger as they have taken on the arena as well all the halls that they had before, how much difference it will make is anyones guess shrug::

Trud I know exactly what you mean by too doggy :laughing: to be honest given the choice I would much prefer to go to a country show or game fair as there is something for everyone, as there isn't anything going on from sept till april/may (ish) by the time crufts come around I'll go anywhere :laughing:
 
Used to be there every year, a-showing my Weimaraners. Hattie's Granny, Connie, was my last success - she won the bitch ticket and her older full brother beat us to BOB ... damn and blast it !

After that, I gave up showing as it had become like watching paint dry, it's too expensive and I'd achieved more or less what I set out to do many years earlier! I did take Hattie's son, Bertie, last year for his owners but we didn't win anything. It was nice to meet up with some old chums again but I truly don't miss it and get so much more pleasure from working the dogseach shooting season - the dogs would sooner go shooting than showing for sure!! I did spot a couple of potential stud dogs for Hattie and her daughter Lily, so it was a useful day out.

There is so much to see but don't ever go on 'Working' day ... too scary for words!!
 
Originally posted by Bar the Bull+Mar 7 2007, 12:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bar the Bull @ Mar 7 2007, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Aldaniti@Mar 6 2007, 04:42 PM
I'm going this year
Do you fancy your chances? Is it worth me having an each way bet? [/b][/quote]
Nah I'd fall & break my neck at the first junction :laughing:
 
Retriever (Nova Scotia Duck Tolling) Breed Standard
11-May-06

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General Appearance
Medium sized, compact. Powerful, well muscled. A heavily feathered tail, constantly moving.

Characteristics
Jumps and plays to lure waterfowl into decoy. Retrieves dead and wounded birds. Strong swimmer.

Temperament
Kind, confident, intelligent, easy to train. Playful.

Head and Skull
Clean cut skull, slightly wedge shaped. Broad, slightly rounded. Occiput not prominent. Cheeks flat. Moderate stop. Muzzle tapers from stop to nose. Nostrils well developed. Nose flesh coloured or black.

Eyes
Medium size, almond-shaped, set well apart. Friendly, alert expression. Brown to amber, blending with coat colour. Eye rims flesh coloured or black.

Ears
Triangular, dropped ear of medium size. Set high and well back on skull. Base held very slightly erect. Well feathered at back of fold, hair shorter at rounded tips.

Mouth
Jaws strong with a perfect, regular and complete scissor bite, i.e. upper teeth closely overlapping lower teeth and set square to the jaws. Teeth sound and strong. Softness of mouth essential. Lips tight fitting, flesh coloured or black.

Neck
Medium length, strongly muscled, well set on, no indication of throatiness.

Forequarters
Shoulders well laid back, muscular, medium length. Elbows close to body. Forelegs straight and strong. Pasterns strong, slightly sloping.

Body
Deep chested, ribs well sprung, brisket reaches to elbow. Back short, level topline. Loins strong and muscular. Moderate tuck up.

Hindquarters
Well muscled. Stifles well bent, hocks well let down turning neither in nor out.

Feet
Medium size, round, tight. Toes well arched and strongly webbed. Pads thick, blending with coat colour.

Tail
Set on, slightly sloping towards croup. Broad at base, well feathered; reaching the hock. Carried below level of back at rest; when alert, curves over, not touching back.

Gait/Movement
Impression of power, springy, jaunty with good reach of forelegs and strong rear drive; parallel movement fore and aft. Single tracks at speed; head carried almost level with back.

Coat
Straight, repellent, double coat of medium length and softness with a softer, dense undercoat. Slight wave on back allowed. Feathering at throat, behind ears and at back of thighs. Forelegs moderately feathered.

Colour
All shades of red or orange with lighter featherings and underside of tail. White markings usual in at least one of the following places: tip of tail, feet not extending beyond the pasterns, chest and blaze. Lack of white not to be penalised. Any black in coat highly undesirable.

Size
Ideal height: dogs: 48-51 cms (19-20 ins); bitches: 45-48 cms (18-19 ins).

Faults
Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog.

Note
Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.





Last Updated - February 2003


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duck tolling retriever, pinched from teh kennel club site......
 
Hovawart Breed Standard
10-May-06

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The Kennel Club Picture Library - © Pedigree Petfoods

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General Appearance Powerful, medium size dog, slightly longer than high. Long-haired with weather resistant coat. Free from exaggeration. Noticeable difference between dogs and bitches.

Characteristics Versatile, companion and working dog. Adaptable, devoted, self-confident, agile and resilient.

Temperament  Kind and even temperament, loyal, self-assured, courageous, tolerant and composed, without nervousness or aggression.

Head and Skull  Clean head with moderately broad skull. Length from occiput to stop equal to length from stop to nose. Width and length of skull approximately equal. Viewed in profile, foreface straight and parallel to skull. Stop moderate though clearly defined. Strong, deep muzzle, tapering slightly. Well developed nostrils.

Eyes  Oval, medium sized. Dark to medium brown, toning with pigmentation. Alert and intelligent expression.

Ears Triangular, with gently rounded tips and hanging loosely. Set medium to high, increasing apparent breadth of skull. Length reaching to the corner of the mouth, front edges positioned approximately midway between eye and occiput tip. Carried slightly forward when alert.

Mouth Tight lips. Full dentition with scissor bite i.e. upper teeth closely overlapping lower teeth and set square to the jaws. Pincer bite tolerated.

Neck Strong, medium length, no dewlap.

Forequarters Strong, well-muscled. Shoulders long and well laid-back. Upper arms long and lying close to the body, elbows fitting close to the chest. Forearms straight, viewed from any angle. Pasterns moderately sloping when viewed from the side.

Body Well balanced. Slightly longer from point of shoulder to point of buttocks than height at withers. Strong topline, level from withers to croup. Slightly sloping croup of moderate length. Chest strong, deep and broad. Foreribs relatively flat, allowing elbows freedom of movement, but ribs increasingly well sprung from behind the elbows. Deep brisket. Strong loin. Moderate tuck up.

Hindquarters  Wide, powerful and well muscled. Well angulated without exaggeration. Second thigh wide and very well muscled. Legs straight when viewed from behind. Hocks strong and well let down.

Feet Roundish, strong, compact with well arched toes. Pads thick and strong. Dew claws may be removed.

Tail Bushy, reaching below the hocks but not to ground. When standing, hangs down. Raised over the back when alert or moving.

Gait/Movement Effortless, ground covering gait, straight and true. Good reach and drive.

Coat  On the body the coat is long but not excessively so. Dense, straight or slightly waved and close lying, with sparse undercoat. Short on head and front of legs, longer on the chest, belly, the rear of forelegs, back of thighs and tail.

Colour

Black: Deep, shining black without rustiness. A few white spots on chest and a few white hairs on toes and tip of tail are permissible. Black pigmentation on eye rims, lips and pads.

Blonde: Medium shade of blonde, shiny and becoming lighter towards the legs and belly. A few white spots on chest and a few white hairs on toes and tip of tail are permissible. Black pigmentation on eye rims, lips and pads. Snow nose acceptable.

Black/gold: Deep, shining black, without rustiness, with medium blonde markings clearly defined as follows:

A spot over each eye.
On cheeks.
As a strip around each side of muzzle but not on bridge of nose.
On throat.
Two clear patches on either side of breastbone which may be joined.
On forelegs the colour runs from toes to wrists with colour up the backs of the forearms extending to the elbows.
On the hindlegs the colour runs from toes to hocks extending up the inside of the legs, seen from the side as a narrow stripe up the front of the leg reaching to stifle and belly.
Under tail.
A few white spots on chest and a few white hairs on toes and tip of tail are permissible. Black pigmentation on eye rims, lips and pads.

Size
Height: dogs: 63-70 cms (25-271/2 ins); bitches: 58-65 cms (23-251/2 ins). Weight: dogs: 30-40 kgs (66-88 lbs); bitches: 25-35 kgs (55-77 lbs).

Faults
Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog.

Note
Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.



Last Updated - March 2007


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I miss Murphy!! cry
 
Didnt work did it - I cant see them any more - it was two Hovies. They are massive, hairy, soft as shite lumps!!

and yes - I agree - te NSDTR does look like a cross breed - its what Im trying to persuade mum they want after Katy demises....

(as Ive wangles them tea with the Queen on Fridau I think im in very very good books at the moment, so its a pissabolity....)

The other one i like is a Basset Fauve de Bretagne - tey look like crossbreeds as awell - theyre cool little chaps!
 
Nah, what you really want is a Hungarian Wirehaired Viszla, Troods!!

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This is my Molly's dam, Patsy, courtesy of Donna Holman's website (breeder of my WHV, Silvanus Bakewell Tart)

PS - how's Archie getting on??
 
Helen -- :P :laughing: its not me though - its my rentals. ( and unexpected bonus to the horse leasing, and one thta has terrified my tiddy mum!!)


Julie - TBH Im not a fan of wirehaired any breed - but the smooth coated Vislas are quite nice.I do like the Munsterlanders though - and still hanker after another english setter - guess IM just a gundoggy person!

Archie - far as I know hes very well and still got his paws firmly under the table... I'll mail Nenad later and let you know ( or get him to mail you!)


Hoverwart web page

hopefully the link will work for anyone who wants to see pics of a Hovie - theres a gallery with lots of pics ( and immensely cute puppies!!)
 
I think I've got a duff HWV, Troods - Mol has a really soft coat - it's not at all harsh. I love her when she's all trimmed out but, as Jon will confirm, she's a second class citizen in my house because my first love will always be my Weimaraners and any breed with a coat really doesn't appeal to me....

Mind you, Mol ins't treated any differently to the other two!
 
Molly is very, very lovable, but I suspect she really wants to be the one and only, which is difficult with two other boisterous Wies and a visiting boyo, too. She does get a little bit shoved out of place by the two girls, but never snarls or snaps. I love to see her swim and retrieve sticks, and she has a mouth like velvet.

Ah, I see, a cunning plot to confuse me even more than usual: A HOVAWART, not a hoverwart, and duck tolling, not toling. Apart from that... hey, I love the idea that a Hovawart's job is to 'jump and play' to distract the ducks into the decoy! I can see one with a false Groucho Marx nose and 'tache on, telling terrible jokes as it hops from one leg to another, juggling three frogs. "Are they distracted yet?" it mutters to its owner, as it gets out the old three cups and a coin trick...
 
I worked for BBC at Crufts last year and had a ball,have to say was sick of labradors by end of last day.And Discover Dogs section was insane.I saw Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers last year and have wanted one ever since,gorgeous dogs.
Won't be there this year as am driving over to Chelt this weekend and will take it easy on Sunday watching Best in Show on tv.
 
My dog dropped dead of a heart attack a few weeks ago. Only 2 and a half years old. Much as I liked her, she was a real handful, so I found this website that matches you up with your perfect breed of dog.

Breed Matcher

I got ...

Australian Labradoodle

Cocker Westie

Kerry Blue Terrier

Labradoodle

Miniature Goldendoodle

Miniature Labradoodle

Petite Goldendoodle

Schnoodle

Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier

Whoodles

Polly Wolly Doodle all the day.
 
I love dogs, they are my life (along with horses) but I dislike Crufts :( It's a beauty pagent and some of the breed specs are just so outlandish they are begining to affect the dogs ability to live an normal life.

Re NSDTR - lovely dogs, but good heavens, what a noise!!!!!! They screach, they don't bark........
 
Originally posted by Melendez@Mar 8 2007, 08:40 AM
so I found this website that matches you up with your perfect breed of dog.

Breed Matcher

I got ...

Australian Labradoodle

Cocker Westie

Labradoodle

Miniature Goldendoodle

Miniature Labradoodle

Petite Goldendoodle

Schnoodle

Whoodles

So essentially what they suggest is that your perfect companion is infact a mongrel? I don't get this new trend for expensive crossbreeds. Why pay hundreds of pounds when rescues all over the country are full of them?
 
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