Crufts

I just did the test, it threw up 75 suggestions, most were crossbreeds but included the bizarrely named Cock-A-Mo. Sounds like a cross between a cockerel and a cow! It is indeed a cross between an American Cocker Spaniel & American Eskimo whatever one of those is :what:
 
Crossing breeds can be a dangerous action - the perceived opinion that mongrels are hardier and better tempered is utter crap - but first generation crosses can be even worse. Just as many pedigrees are sound and good tempered as cross-breds but the reverse is also sadly true.

Breed standards are a good thing - what isn't are novice breeders who breed for one particular attribute only and forget the dog and its breed as a whole and then, when they breed a litter and encounter the inevitalbe problems, gob off to all and sundry about where the problem came from in their (usually limited) opinion....

Having owned both brood bitches and stud dogs, believe me, I've come across quite a bit of this!

I quite agree with Raksha where she condemns many unsound breeds though - it shouldn't be acceptable. However, The Kennel Club has o competition and, whiloe that remain in charge of all matters pedigree, there's little chance of a change. A bigger hypocritical body you'd be hard put to find, imo.
 
The problem with getting a puppy from a rescue, is that you have absolutely no idea what you are going to end up with, certainly in terms of temprement. While we put a fair effort into training poor Sheila, who we got from a rescue, we are no experts, and she was very highly strung and very domineering. While she turned out to be only slightly bigger than we had imagined she was a good deal heavier and stronger.

If you don't get a puppy you are leaving yourself open to picking up a dog that someone else couldn't handle. Unless you are confident enough that you can manage whatever is thrown at you, it probably isn't fair on the animal or yourself to take it on.

At least these type of mongrels are tried and tested. It really makes no difference to me whether they are pedegree or not, I'm never going to show them or breed from them. After the last experience, I would like to have more of an idea what I am getting though.
 
Originally posted by Songsheet@Mar 8 2007, 09:45 AM
Crossing breeds can be a dangerous action - the perceived opinion that mongrels are hardier and better tempered is utter crap - but first generation crosses can be even worse. Just as many pedigrees are sound and good tempered as cross-breds but the reverse is also sadly true.
I wholeheartedly agree with that. Some of the crosses I've seen for sale are shocking and utter madness. Some of them are bound to result in nutcases.
 
Back & knackered :laughing:

Managed to get a couple of piccys for Trud of the NSDTR but they aren't brilliant as I took my old compact & just how awful are they to use after using a proper camera for a couple of months? :eek:

Will try to upload tomorrow
 
There was mention by Clare Balding of people saying that Cruft's is ghastly and cruel. The show had a woman from the KC on saying how hard they work to ensure nothing but the best treatment for the animals, and that canine welfare is at its heart. She didn't exactly defend the law on tail-docking, though, and the KC seems to have taken a typically woolly stance on it. Gundogs will be exempt, so I suppose anyone who has a gundog breed, even if it only sits in a shiny 4x4 in Kensington, will insist their tails are cut off.

I don't know if the Scandinavian countries which outlawed this some 20 years ago don't do any hunting with dogs, but if they do, it would be interesting to know if having a tail has proved an enormous hindrance to their work?

Equally interesting, then, are the arguments - now presumably fatuous - that were put up to defend docking. Oh, the wild animal could grab the dog's tail, it got in the way of bushes, it could be tangled up in branches, blah, blah. But why would a true hunting dog - a Saluki - maintain its tail, while a bird-retrieving dog (not battling for its life, presumably, with a dead mallard) need its tail cut off? Can our breeders help out? But, I digress: tail-docking was done in Roman times because of DOG TAX! If you docked your mutt's tail and called him a hunting dog, you paid no tax. If he retained his wagger, you did. So, all about saving a few ducats and nothing at all to do with the mechanics of swimming, chasing, or retrieving. And long after the departure of the Romans and their docked dogs, we've kept the practice.
 
As I understand it ( but I was only half watching!) you will have to prove them as intending to be used as working dogs tobe allowed to dock, and they wont be allowed to show in any show where people have top pay to watch ( ie crufts) - so you can still take your docked dog to family shows, and even most open shows - just not the big stuff.

As for showing beng cruel (which was another area they touched upon) - Im with Jesica wotsit - its like a big party for the dogs - teh few ive ever taken love it!!

Id love to see a NSDTR at work - Ive got a similar pic in my head Kri!!

Look forward to the piccies Helen - thankyou very much!!

Soft Coated Wheatens were another that I considered before I got lumped with Murphy - cant remember what stopped me getting one - it could well be the fact that they are cream and everything I do ( near enough!) involves mud...
 
Originally posted by trudij@Mar 9 2007, 02:12 PM
Look forward to the piccies Helen - thankyou very much!!

You haven't seen just how bad they are :ph34r:

And yes that carpet really is that colour :what:


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Fell it love with this chap :luv:

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Originally posted by krizon@Mar 9 2007, 01:09 AM
But why would a true hunting dog - a Saluki - maintain its tail, while a bird-retrieving dog (not battling for its life, presumably, with a dead mallard) need its tail cut off? Can our breeders help out?
I would imagine its because Salukis are sight-hounds and bred for running after their prey in the desert whereas your spaniel would hurl itself through rough cover/thickets where they could get tangled up had they a long hairy fluffy tail.
 
I enjoyed watching it on telly last night. Shame neither the Clumber or Sussex spaniel made it through the last bit of the final. I'd love to have one of those :wub:
 
His legs look kinda stumpy, so I thought he was a Medium Dane! I have to admit that I didn't know Great Danes came in spots - I thought they were brindle or light brown. Interesting-looking dog!
 
Vogle was mildly entertaining on that boat ride with the rower, but he turned up at Preston Station a month or so ago wearing stone washed jeans and pointy brown shoes. A combination that would mean death in any sane world.
 
It's actually Fogle, not Vogle - not that it matters, since anyone wearing pointy brown shoes with stonewashed jeans should be cut dead, regardless of their moniker. Or Monica.
 
I so want Bertha the Bloodhound to win Best In Show tonight.

The comments these two chaps are making crack me up. One of them has just described one dog as having 'fantastic rear end movement' :laughing:
 
I can't believe somebody named their dog Fabulous Willie :laughing: Mr GG said "I don't know why you find it so amusing. At least they didn't name him Huge Cock" :what:
 
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