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Phil Waters
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...and the Welsh make love to farm animals.
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BrianH
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Only approximately 50% of them
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Phil Waters
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:lol: Oh aye, forgot about the women for a moment.
Their willies are tiny.
Their willies are tiny.
Desperate Dan
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"Every woman needs a Willie."
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Phil Waters
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I was just saying.
I'm a bit jealous.
I'm a bit jealous.
Merlin the Magician
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ask Clare................???????
Merlin the Magician
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Are EWE trying to be funny....? only animal way I like it... is doggy fashion!!! what man don't.................????
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Ardross
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Somehow I don't think this thread will make forum gold after all
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Kathy
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Are some of you turning this very serious thread into something quite silly now, or am I the only one who gets told off for hijacking threads! <_< 
Merlin the Magician
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with a bit of pruning it can still make it...............but one must respond to pee!! takers......in a positive manner ..?
I wont complain if my threads are deleted
..........from this topic that is..... 
I wont complain if my threads are deleted
..........from this topic that is..... 
Diminuendo
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I have to agree with Kathy on this one, this thread has been turned upside down . From probably the most serious incident to hit this country in recent years to silly jokes. :angy:
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Phil Waters
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Yippee! I made the cut.
(From one perspective)
(From one perspective)
Merlin the Magician
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I actually seen a news report from Leeds(this morning) they interviewed about 6 muslim young men in their twenties....and ask them would they do a similar thing if given the option?? one was very chopsy and arrogant and said yes!! he would... as Britain and America are bombing his people in Iraq and Afganhistan.................
makes one wonder where all this is going to stop?? doesn't it.......
makes one wonder where all this is going to stop?? doesn't it.......
"one was very chopsy and arrogant" Probably the quiet one behind him would be more likely Merlin.
A few extracts for you to browse through Simmo.
As police continued to question the eight suspects arrested in anti-terror raids yesterday, British Muslim leaders today launched their own drive against hardliners seeking to infiltrate UK mosques and convert vulnerable young men into fanatics.
In the wake of Operation Crevis - which resulted in the seizure of half a tonne of
potentially explosive material and the arrest of eight men - the country's leading Muslim organisation said that it was writing to mosques, asking imams to be alert to possible terrorist activity.
The Muslim Council of Britain is contacting 1,000 mosques, urging their congregations to maintain "utmost vigilance". The appeal to the UK's two million-strong Muslim population will be made through imams, chairmen and secretaries of the mosques.
Now why would they consider a response such as this, if they didn’t believe there was a genuine concern?
Police continued to question eight men about the seizure in west London of more than half a tonne of fertiliser thought to be part of a plot to explode a car or truck bomb.........
Lal Hussain, the father of one of the suspects, Waheed Mahmood, spoke about "bad people" at mosques who spread fundamentalism. "This version of Islam is spoiling it for everyone else," he said. "They have not arrested them; they arrested these kids."
Mr. Shafiq-ur-Rehman, the maulvi of a mosque in Oldham, near Manchester, was found raising funds for the Lashkar and recruiting young British Muslims for training in Pakistan.
Anti-terrorist police who burst into the Finsbury Park mosque in north London early yesterday found weapons including a stun gun and hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, identity and credit cards.
They also found a CS gas canister and a blank-firing imitation firearm at the building, which security forces believe has been used as a haven and base for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.
Perhaps it was a mistake by the police and there was a genuine reason for the storage of this material. Why is Sheikh Hamza not allowed to preach (his rhetoric) there anymore?
Regarding the arrests made at Crawley in 2004.
“ Mr Khan said he had not worried about extremism until the war in Afghanistan. He said that he had warned his son about falling under the influence of subversive elements that preyed on young Muslims at the mosques.”
All attended Crawley Islamic Centre and Mosque, in Langley Green.
The mosque has condemned Islamic militant group Al-Muhajiroun for trying to recruit worshippers to send to terror camps abroad.
Abu Yahya said: "There is an obligation on Muslims to defend other Muslims. If I am capable to fight on the frontline then I will go and fight. I would also ask people to fulfil their divine obligations. I would ask them in the mosques, I would ask them in the community centres," said the father of two, now back in London.
He added: "I would ask them and I would say to the youth: 'If you can fulfil your divine obligation then by all means go and fight on the frontline.' We will do whatever we can to change the world order to an Islamic world order."
Brian, if you wish to use analogies.
Substitute Brian for Muslim and Hen Knight's yard for Mosque. Now, in that yard is a well fancied 'dark horse', Brain doesn't own it, have shares in it, or have any connection with it. It is expected to win when it runs this week. Who would be the more likely to find out about it, Brian or me? Neither of us have any direct connection with it, but I know where my money would be.
A few extracts for you to browse through Simmo.
As police continued to question the eight suspects arrested in anti-terror raids yesterday, British Muslim leaders today launched their own drive against hardliners seeking to infiltrate UK mosques and convert vulnerable young men into fanatics.
In the wake of Operation Crevis - which resulted in the seizure of half a tonne of
potentially explosive material and the arrest of eight men - the country's leading Muslim organisation said that it was writing to mosques, asking imams to be alert to possible terrorist activity.
The Muslim Council of Britain is contacting 1,000 mosques, urging their congregations to maintain "utmost vigilance". The appeal to the UK's two million-strong Muslim population will be made through imams, chairmen and secretaries of the mosques.
Now why would they consider a response such as this, if they didn’t believe there was a genuine concern?
Police continued to question eight men about the seizure in west London of more than half a tonne of fertiliser thought to be part of a plot to explode a car or truck bomb.........
Lal Hussain, the father of one of the suspects, Waheed Mahmood, spoke about "bad people" at mosques who spread fundamentalism. "This version of Islam is spoiling it for everyone else," he said. "They have not arrested them; they arrested these kids."
Mr. Shafiq-ur-Rehman, the maulvi of a mosque in Oldham, near Manchester, was found raising funds for the Lashkar and recruiting young British Muslims for training in Pakistan.
Anti-terrorist police who burst into the Finsbury Park mosque in north London early yesterday found weapons including a stun gun and hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, identity and credit cards.
They also found a CS gas canister and a blank-firing imitation firearm at the building, which security forces believe has been used as a haven and base for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.
Perhaps it was a mistake by the police and there was a genuine reason for the storage of this material. Why is Sheikh Hamza not allowed to preach (his rhetoric) there anymore?
Regarding the arrests made at Crawley in 2004.
“ Mr Khan said he had not worried about extremism until the war in Afghanistan. He said that he had warned his son about falling under the influence of subversive elements that preyed on young Muslims at the mosques.”
All attended Crawley Islamic Centre and Mosque, in Langley Green.
The mosque has condemned Islamic militant group Al-Muhajiroun for trying to recruit worshippers to send to terror camps abroad.
Abu Yahya said: "There is an obligation on Muslims to defend other Muslims. If I am capable to fight on the frontline then I will go and fight. I would also ask people to fulfil their divine obligations. I would ask them in the mosques, I would ask them in the community centres," said the father of two, now back in London.
He added: "I would ask them and I would say to the youth: 'If you can fulfil your divine obligation then by all means go and fight on the frontline.' We will do whatever we can to change the world order to an Islamic world order."
Brian, if you wish to use analogies.
Substitute Brian for Muslim and Hen Knight's yard for Mosque. Now, in that yard is a well fancied 'dark horse', Brain doesn't own it, have shares in it, or have any connection with it. It is expected to win when it runs this week. Who would be the more likely to find out about it, Brian or me? Neither of us have any direct connection with it, but I know where my money would be.
Of the homegrown terrorists.
It is within these closed communities that the extremists find recruits for al-Qa'eda and other terror groups. Apart from the two Israeli bombers, in recent years Britain has supplied Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who masterminded the kidnap and murder of US journalist Daniel Pearl in Pakistan. Originally from east London, he attended a British public school before dropping out of the LSE.
Richard Reid, born in London, tried to carry out a suicide attack on a Paris to Miami flight in December 2001, but was overpowered by passengers.
There are seven British Muslims held by the Americans in Guantánamo Bay after being captured in Afghanistan. Three are from Tipton in the West Midlands.
A few years ago, another British-born Muslim extremist, belonging to the Pakistani-
based militant organisation Jaish-i-Muhamnmad, killed 32 people when he rammed a lorry packed with explosives into an Indian army barracks in Kashmir.
One thing that all have in common, apart from their faith, is that they attended mosques or events where fundamentalist messages were routinely issued.
The trial earlier this year of Abdullah el-Faisal, an imam, gave an insight into the content of those messages. He was convicted on charges of incitement to racial hatred for producing tapes urging audiences to kill Western unbelievers.
El-Faisal, a Jamaican, travelled round Britain, addressing audiences in Manchester, Birmingham, Coventry, Maidenhead, Bournemouth and London. He exhorted Muslims to take up arms against Jews, Hindus, Americans and other "infidels". In the early 1990s, he was a preacher and prayer leader at Brixton Mosque, where Richard Reid worshipped. He also led study circles with young Muslims in Tipton.
After his trial, one investigator said: "We simply don't know how many young impressionable Muslims may have gone to training camps and returned with the knowledge and resources to commit acts of terrorism as a result of his words.''
Speakers such as el-Faisal and Abu Hamza, now banned from preaching at Finsbury Park, are very persuasive. They tap into a general dissatisfaction felt by many young Muslims and, while police and MI5 will see if the Tel Aviv bombers were part of a network, it is likely they were acting alone.
Their one shared experience will have been exposure to a radical imam, possibly during a trip abroad, but just as likely at home.
It is no longer enough for mainstream Muslim community leaders to take to the airwaves after every atrocity involving Islamic fundamentalists to argue that they represent a small minority.
Of course they are a minority; terrorists always are.
The fundamentalists need to be confronted directly in their communities by those who represent a law-abiding majority largely cut off from the predominant culture.
Britain is a tolerant society that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, whatever their opinions. But it must also be incumbent on those who see fanaticism in their midst to combat it, not simply to condemn.
If the extremists are allowed, unchallenged, to continue preaching their doctrine of hate to young Muslims, then the next suicide bomb attack could well be in Britain.
Prophetic words indeed...........
It is within these closed communities that the extremists find recruits for al-Qa'eda and other terror groups. Apart from the two Israeli bombers, in recent years Britain has supplied Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who masterminded the kidnap and murder of US journalist Daniel Pearl in Pakistan. Originally from east London, he attended a British public school before dropping out of the LSE.
Richard Reid, born in London, tried to carry out a suicide attack on a Paris to Miami flight in December 2001, but was overpowered by passengers.
There are seven British Muslims held by the Americans in Guantánamo Bay after being captured in Afghanistan. Three are from Tipton in the West Midlands.
A few years ago, another British-born Muslim extremist, belonging to the Pakistani-
based militant organisation Jaish-i-Muhamnmad, killed 32 people when he rammed a lorry packed with explosives into an Indian army barracks in Kashmir.
One thing that all have in common, apart from their faith, is that they attended mosques or events where fundamentalist messages were routinely issued.
The trial earlier this year of Abdullah el-Faisal, an imam, gave an insight into the content of those messages. He was convicted on charges of incitement to racial hatred for producing tapes urging audiences to kill Western unbelievers.
El-Faisal, a Jamaican, travelled round Britain, addressing audiences in Manchester, Birmingham, Coventry, Maidenhead, Bournemouth and London. He exhorted Muslims to take up arms against Jews, Hindus, Americans and other "infidels". In the early 1990s, he was a preacher and prayer leader at Brixton Mosque, where Richard Reid worshipped. He also led study circles with young Muslims in Tipton.
After his trial, one investigator said: "We simply don't know how many young impressionable Muslims may have gone to training camps and returned with the knowledge and resources to commit acts of terrorism as a result of his words.''
Speakers such as el-Faisal and Abu Hamza, now banned from preaching at Finsbury Park, are very persuasive. They tap into a general dissatisfaction felt by many young Muslims and, while police and MI5 will see if the Tel Aviv bombers were part of a network, it is likely they were acting alone.
Their one shared experience will have been exposure to a radical imam, possibly during a trip abroad, but just as likely at home.
It is no longer enough for mainstream Muslim community leaders to take to the airwaves after every atrocity involving Islamic fundamentalists to argue that they represent a small minority.
Of course they are a minority; terrorists always are.
The fundamentalists need to be confronted directly in their communities by those who represent a law-abiding majority largely cut off from the predominant culture.
Britain is a tolerant society that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, whatever their opinions. But it must also be incumbent on those who see fanaticism in their midst to combat it, not simply to condemn.
If the extremists are allowed, unchallenged, to continue preaching their doctrine of hate to young Muslims, then the next suicide bomb attack could well be in Britain.
Prophetic words indeed...........
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
It isn`t just pub talk. Forget about the excellent shows they`ve made it`s the general populace who dont get it...i post regulary on the Boston Red Sox message board and have been in trouble a couple of times because of this failure. They`ve taken things i`ve posted so seriously that i`ve had to explain in minute detail what my motives were.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
:lol: Happens all the time, but the joke i told that got me banned from the Betfair forum for example wasn`t ironic...it just upset a couple of thin skinned scousers.
BrianH
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I didn't know that it was possible to get banned from the Betfair forum...
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