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gigilo said:
Yep but couldn't see anything useful at all to say about it,there was just nothing to read into it,bit like those 4 gambles yesterday i place laid the 4 of them.Everyone was backing them in multiples at 5-6/1 absolutely nuts.
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I wasn't looking for you to say anything on the form because I knew it was useless but how do these boys think they have one 'right'
 
lujeanie


Not a prolific winner lujeanie but has now dropped to a mark of 75 lowest since december 2009 and that leaves a lot more options for him being able to drop in class.He was a big eyecatcher last time out with eddie riding and first time run for peter crate,hacking up in a 5f race sat out the back then badly hampered 2 furlongs out.Being hampered wouldv'e made no difference as was never going to be put in the race and the that 5f race has enabled another 2 pound drop.Although he doesn't win very often on the turf he may just go off far bigger prices on there than the aw so worth watching out for on both surfaces.
 
Putins only won 4/67 runs but two of those have been from 16 runs at swell,rarely runs a bad race at the track although at very low level has been running quite consuistently all season.His last run over 6fs here in better race than this behind mj woodward 4th beaten 1 3/4ls,was actually tanking along for most of that race and 3ls clear with mj woodward with a furlong to go eventually just run out of the places.Had romanticize just infront recent placed third and greenhead high behind twice a winner since all runners were rated higher than tomorrows.Lifetime runs over 5fs is one that was this season again when third to charming and scret millionaire beaten nose and a head at lingfield.The 12/1 looks massive if the draw 9 doesn't beat him the highs have looked at disadvantage so far this season,but his price compensates he looks a 5-6/1 shot on kost of his form this season.

9/1 365 now!

8/1 ppower/victor
 
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gigilo said:
baltic prince

A bit late in the season for horses to follow on the aw but baltic prince first run on fibresand and ran well after getting left 6ls then switched wider giving even more ground away to be beaten a length.Has run well in slightly better races previous off slightly higher marks,now at the lowest level back over this track a 6f race should take all the beating off just a mark of 48.I can see him being out again quickly in one of these very weak races,finished with a bit in hand at the end of the race as well.
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Think thats 4 in the last week that have won off to follows!!;)
 
Well done Gigs.

I backed the bugger at big odds last week when it fell out the stalls.

I still think it will be a better horse on fibresand, although its got another two entries at Wolver.
 
Looking at todays win looks like the surface isn't going to make much difference reasonable time for a horse rated 46.
 
gigilo said:
I've already backed captain bertie for the lincoln,obviously don't know for sure what the ground will be but if its good/sft or worse can see it going off 8/1 or fav.I've taken 16/1 i havn't really looked art the race but i think he's capable of better ran an eyecatching race at ascot over 7fs last run last season.He was up with the pace for the first 4 furlongs passed by half the field and then stayed on to be nearest finish showing great attitude,definitely one for a big handicap on softer ground.Owes me nothing after the newbury win last season and i've always thought he might be near listed class as he's looking more consistent.
I'm not encouraging anyone to back at current odds of 12/1 just i was always going to back him regardless,if it had been decent gd ground and sweet lightning had been drawn on standside or farside very low or high i wouldv'e backed that but looks unlikely at the moment.
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12s into 8s overnight!!Hope you got the 12/1:lol:;)
 
Looking at todays win looks like the surface isn't going to make much difference reasonable time for a horse rated 46.
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I've got a problem with Hannah's Turn tomorrow. I think it's a lay @ 4/6, even though it beat Baltic Prince lto. There was very little to beat in that race and Baltic lost 10 lths at the start.

The problem is the ease of Baltic today and lack of form from the opposition.

She still looks to be carrying a penalty for being lucky to win a weak race and stepping up in grade.
 
Not sure about Putin today Andy, prefer the chance of Chateau Lola in that race.
Anything that you can see to beat Spirit of Gondree and Apache Glory, thinking of dutching the two of them.
 
3/1f unreal i had to go out so was out at 7.6,looked non trier to me since the beginning of time the rail at swell has been impossible to win on after a furlong place laid it.Keep getting 12/1 shots like that everyday will do me on a crap days racing,no intention of trying with that today otherwise he wouldv'e switched and sacrificed the distance!
 
Good luck with your lay Doomster, don't think much of the 2nd fav though.
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Looks like you were right Simpson, although the antics at the start didn't help.

I thought Miako was a similar lay to HT @ 1.9, but after that demolition, my confidence and wallet were shot.
 
Kaylee-6.15Kempton. 10/1-365.

Giving one final chance to this horse tmr night, ran well here lto when 3rd to Rightcar after being given a bit too much to do by the head waiter. Rightcar has run 2 decent races since despite not getting the best of runs and Metropolitan Chief 1 1/2 lgths behind in 6th has come out and won since.
Kaylee also ran a good race here over c/d when btn 1 length to Beach Candy. Her best run was at Wolver in nov when ridden by tmrs apprentice just got btn by Artful Lady off 50, have a look at the horses behind and see how many races they have won at this level and better, inc Reginald Claude, Dixie Gwalia, Athakeel etc. Form through Slatey Hen and Do more Business gives it a similar chance to Spellmaker and Scommettitrice and horse usually gets backed, hopefully Tates 5lb will help her get her bonce in front.
 
bandy bob


Ian jardine trained bandy bob only had the 5 lifetime runs,shown one piece of form behind dandarell staying on beaten 4 1/4ls over 1m1 1/2fs,then after 5 month break was brought down from boxborough to finish tailed off at wolves over 1m4fs.The dam was unraced but related to some nice middle distance runners and off only a mark of 45 could easily be open to more improvement with a trainer that is relatively new and does have a decent strike rate.Last run should guarantee some nice prices and worth folllowing short term,maybe even worth watching out for over the sticks.;)

Hope someones keeping track of all these!!:lol:
 
Hi Andy, remember most of them, Scamperdale was a nice 20/1 winner:) last week but don't think you actually put it up on the to follows but know a few have won recently. What do you think of Rakaans chance tmr, running well at present should go close imo.
 
I put up a lucky 15 a few weeks ago with scamperdale and buckland in,scamperdales won the worst race its ever run in and bucklands won 3 since.They seem to all be winning even if not on the to follows,the one that got beat today at swell thankfully came second excellent puck should be a nice bet at wolves or lingfield on poly.
Rakaan never runs badly at kempton has been in the quickest time there over c/d,plenty of good form to be involved in the finish looks like the 4yr olds open to more improvement are the dangers.
 
Mary's Pet is a horse that basically annoys me Simpson.

The horse looks like its screaming out to be returned to Southwell, but contues around the London tracks, which must surely be owner based.

His Kempton record is dire, but if you dismiss his class barrier and a stream of wide draws, you can't really knock her efforts.

For a low grade mare, her record when actually getting the lead is excellent.

Her only recent failure from the front was when beaten by todays fav, Spellmaker. Kirby probably went a little too hard that day ( hit 1.5 in running), but has an 8lb turnaround this time.

I think the last run can be discounted, when a 7lb claimer really wasn't forceful enough to get the lead. All five wins have come with comments: "led from start".

Surprised that Fox has only ridden the mare three times, with decent results.

Drawn in 3 and an all time low mark of 50, should hopefully see her get an early lead.

No doubt she will get beat and then run at Southwell.
 
Kaylee has took a right walk in the market, presumably down to the wide draw but so long as he doesn't try to race wide throughout wouldn't unduly bother me, have to have a bit at 20s.
Marys Pet is a horse i haven't really noticed Doomster but purely on weights with the fav 8lbs for 1 1/2 lengths looks value, good luck with it.
 
The fav Spellmaker is now taking 53% of the market now so everything has gone out in price. I don't think I could back anything in a C6 at Kempton at Evens, so I will back Mary's Pet hopefully around 32.0 and try and trade at down from 12.0/3.2 1.61/1.23.

I thought Kohlaan would have to be a mid 80's horse to win from that draw so was going to lay it but two inside it have come out. I will wait to see if anything else is pulled before putting the lay in.
 
Looks like Newcombe is going for the double with Mambo Spirit as well.
Don't know anything about that 3 yo maiden but don't like to see a hood on a horse so quickly, only 2 in the betting though!
 
I think he's mentioned it as one to follow so I was expecting it to be short. I thought the same about the hood and I'm hoping the 4 month lay will see him pull like a train ( that's what normally happens why I back 'em).

The n/r doesn't help but there are two possibles who could improve.

Stall 14: 2/25. Winning OR's allotted: 82, 91

Stall 13: 2/31. " 82,91.

Stall 12: 5/40: " : 82,71,78,95,90.

Stall 11: 4/48: " 92,90,88,85


I then checked the maidens in March in case the better quality horse came out then, but it comes out 3/25, with OR's 78,82,98.

If he's up to that standard I don't mind paying out.
 
Gigs, do you not fancy standing in for Nevison ?

I don't think I can cringe much more. I normally have the volume off, but I can't believe the holes he digs for himself.

And you have to pay for it.
 
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