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Exactly
 
Hilarious!!!

How about a fck off back to Scotland for Gordon Brown? Im creasing up

Or what about those asian MPs? Can we do a fck off back to wherever too?

Wiping the tears away from my eyes now...
 
Keep things civil lads. I'm all for political discussion (American election thread was fantastic) and this forum has always shown itself more than capable of interesting and enlightening political debate, but comments like "fuck off back to wherever" just drag the whole thing down a bit imo.
 
I wouldn't say it was satire rich but the point of the poster stands, why would anyone, anywhere believe a ludicrously overpriveliged Eton boy would give a flying one about the NHS?
 
Well if you dont want Cameron or Brown and who in their right mind would vote for Clegg then WHO should be in charge?

People are quick to say what they DONT want but rarely back it up with who they DO want.

(Warning - my son is in his 3rd and final year of Uni studying Politics and International Science, is Leader of the Conservatives at Warwick Uni and has been in charge of campaigning for the election of the local Conservation candidate so its all Tory blue in the Bally Doyle household ;))
 
why would anyone, anywhere believe a ludicrously overpriveliged Eton boy would give a flying one about the NHS?
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Hard to keep it civil with comments such as that. I am no Cameron fan but as he has often movingly told the world his son Ivan was treated wonderfully by the NHS throughout his tragicically short life.

the idea that because you went to eton you cannot care about the wider health resources avaiable to the rest of the country is stupid bone headed class hatred. Pathetic frankly
 
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Ballydoyle said:
Well if you dont want Cameron or Brown and who in their right mind would vote for Clegg then WHO should be in charge?
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This is what is so fecked up about our political landscape at the moment. Labour have made a pig's ear out of it and have been in office too long, but should that automatically mean we get the clueless Tories again? Cameron is just a Tory version of Blair without the charisma and yet he stands on the threshold of power despite having done nothing to earn it.
 
You could be really cynical and say that Cameron uses the death of his son for political gain.
 
You could but seeing as that was published whilst his son was alive, a bit unlikely i think? And given that ones childs life is going to be more important than any political gain to any semi reasonable human, it is of significance that he didnt rush him off to america or anywhere else

I think that debate is concluded...otherwise we are getting really distasteful
 
Gearoid said:
You could be really cynical and say that Cameron uses the death of his son for political gain.
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You could be but you would be wrong. I saw the Camerons not long before Ivan passed away our local coffee shop (another damning nail in my coffin then living in the same neighbourhood then!) and he was rushing around making sure that all the family had everything they wanted and most specially Ivan. There were no security guards close at hand (not saying they werent there just not in plain sight allowing the family some proper time together) and no one was hassling the family demanding answers to political questions etc.

And again if not Cameron, Brown or Clegg then who?

I am honest enough to admit that at the end of the day the main three parties are all pretty much the same but I always ask people who say why bother voting that if you dont vote you have no right to comment on the way the country is run. If you believe strongly enough to complain about it then believe strongly enough to vote to get someone into power to help make some changes.
 
The problem i have with Cameron (and can almost agree with euro) is that hes done little other than be a "political advisor". Its a real failing of our system that potential leaders are barely exposed to the real world before hitting the heights.

I would almost have a rule that you cant stand as an Mp unless you have worked for 5 years (say) outside of the cloistered world of Westminster
 
Again I would have to be cynical. The fact that his son used the NHS rather than go abroad proves in some way that Cameron cares about the NHS?
 
So by using the local resources and not going abroad privately thats using their son? If he had gone abroad he would have been hounded for NOT using the NHS. The poor guy was in a no win situation!

I agree - lets close this thread before someone says something that is truly disgusting.
 
clivex said:
The problem i have with Cameron (and can almost agree with euro) is that hes done little other than be a "political advisor". Its a real failing of our system that potential leaders are barely exposed to the real world before hitting the heights.

I would almost have a rule that you cant stand as an Mp unless you have worked for 5 years (say) outside of the cloistered world of Westminster
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And for that reason I have encouraged my son to work outside the rarified atmosphere of parliament when he graduates this summer (although with him being provsionally offered a job there it already I may have no choice!)
 
Ballydoyle said:
That works in your local constiuency but what about the leader of the country? We dont have anyone else to vote for?
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But it isn't a Presidential Election. I know that's mayve a tad nieve but I have to think that way or I would not get off my arse come polling day.
 
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Vince Cable is my MP (actually lives at end of road)

So i am lucky.....easy choice (and genuinely a nice man and fine local mp too)

he worked all over before parliament...tell your son Ballydoyle...
 
I think its an interesting point about local vs national. In many ways its a mess because the premiership has become almost presiential in powers and prestige.

In truth we should perhaps be closer to the american or french system of representation now

Voting Cable is a pleasure but I do not want to vote for Clegg

My main fear with labour is Brown keeling over and Harperson taking over.....

Nightmare.....
 
I agree Clivex that MPs should have jobs outside of politics before standing hence the reason I want to encourage him not to go straight there. Then again how many students are offered jobs a year before they graduate and the ability to use their degree properly? (Other than those in medicine!)

Strangely though the part of Kensington that I live in is actually a Labour ward despite the area giving the impression of being a Tory bastion. Politics eh!
 
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