Desert Orchid
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Do You Envy Him Or Admire Him?
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He's a Rangers fan so I find it very difficuly to admire anything about him!
<< Craig, who lives on benefits and is on Jobcentre Plus's New Deal programme, claimed £80 of taxpayers' money for a new suit, £41 to cover travelling costs and £30 towards accommodation. >>
Accommodation? - down to Manchester - it's not PARIS ffs nor even Portsmouth!!
Mind you a standard day return with British Rail seems to cost c£97
Accommodation? - down to Manchester - it's not PARIS ffs nor even Portsmouth!!
Mind you a standard day return with British Rail seems to cost c£97
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First thing that you'd have thought went through their minds was a simple case of putting 2 and 2 together, but he seems to have got lucky in so much as the person handling the claim was seemingly oblivious to the possibility of what he'd cooked up. She should have worked out that it was a recruitment agency though, and treated things differently. If it were a job interview offer from a specified employer it would have looked more plausible. The simple fact is you can pretty well travel the UK if they're prepared to pay out on an interview with an agency, as arranging those is very straight forward. In truth if he were smarter he'd gone for a neighbouring city such as Liverpool. The JC normally have to ring up to confirm with the employer, and if this is indeed confirmed (presumebly it would have been) then they pretty well have to do what the regulations say and pay him out. I know there's been an issue previously where a candidate has disguised their unemployment in their application, and this has caused embarrasment and effectively done for the interview process when the JC make contact, so whether they only do this now after the completition of an unsuccessful interview I don't know?
Getting the money back won't be difficult though, as the applicant has to demonstrate they were genuinely seeking work. Traditionally people sent on these types of interviews used to 'throw' the interview. Initially this involved giving deliberatly inappropriate answers, or asking similar type questions, to such an extent as to make them unemployable. This got stamped down on, and people then resorted to simply giving 'yes' / 'no' answers or generally putting over a dilitory or solemn type personality. The newspaper admission will be enough, and since the JC control his purse strings he's not going to get away with the 5p a week offer.
The DSS rarely catch fraudsters, most of them (90% I'm assured) tend to incriminate themselves either through an inadvertant error, or through the way this fella has, which falls into the social bragging, and a disgruntled individual then blowing the whistle. I wouldn't be too out-raged. The costs are hardly high and wholly consistent with Glasgow to Manchester, and in line with regs. She was a bit stupid not to realise the dates, the venue, and the prospective employer, but there you go. They'll just deduct it from his benefit.
First thing that you'd have thought went through their minds was a simple case of putting 2 and 2 together, but he seems to have got lucky in so much as the person handling the claim was seemingly oblivious to the possibility of what he'd cooked up. She should have worked out that it was a recruitment agency though, and treated things differently. If it were a job interview offer from a specified employer it would have looked more plausible. The simple fact is you can pretty well travel the UK if they're prepared to pay out on an interview with an agency, as arranging those is very straight forward. In truth if he were smarter he'd gone for a neighbouring city such as Liverpool. The JC normally have to ring up to confirm with the employer, and if this is indeed confirmed (presumebly it would have been) then they pretty well have to do what the regulations say and pay him out. I know there's been an issue previously where a candidate has disguised their unemployment in their application, and this has caused embarrasment and effectively done for the interview process when the JC make contact, so whether they only do this now after the completition of an unsuccessful interview I don't know?
Getting the money back won't be difficult though, as the applicant has to demonstrate they were genuinely seeking work. Traditionally people sent on these types of interviews used to 'throw' the interview. Initially this involved giving deliberatly inappropriate answers, or asking similar type questions, to such an extent as to make them unemployable. This got stamped down on, and people then resorted to simply giving 'yes' / 'no' answers or generally putting over a dilitory or solemn type personality. The newspaper admission will be enough, and since the JC control his purse strings he's not going to get away with the 5p a week offer.
The DSS rarely catch fraudsters, most of them (90% I'm assured) tend to incriminate themselves either through an inadvertant error, or through the way this fella has, which falls into the social bragging, and a disgruntled individual then blowing the whistle. I wouldn't be too out-raged. The costs are hardly high and wholly consistent with Glasgow to Manchester, and in line with regs. She was a bit stupid not to realise the dates, the venue, and the prospective employer, but there you go. They'll just deduct it from his benefit.
Euronymous
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Most annoying thing in my job - old duffers coming up to me insisting that i work for them.Originally posted by Headstrong@May 20 2008, 01:53 AM
Mind you a standard day return with British Rail seems to cost c£97