Free Otis Ferry

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Why? the blokes an arrogant pillock

He has a string of convictions inc drink driving after downing at least 7 vodka's, the longer he is inside the better :mad:
 
Got more important things to expend my energy on than Otis Ferry. If the pro hunt lobby seriously think they've got martyr material in Ferry, than they're deluded I'm afraid. There are 1001 individuals and causes I'd embrace ahead of him, so I'm sure you won't mind if I decline on this one.
 
Had to laugh at one of the comments on the Facebook page:

THANK GOD!!! I live in America where hunting is still FREE and LEGAL.

Also, Otis Ferry? Can`t be his real name surely. I`d have gone with Bryan Redding meself.
 
It's Bryan Ferry's son.
For those who don't know he is one of the guys who invaded the houses of parliament over the hunting ban; now in prison without bail over an alleged confiscation of an antis camera.
A mAn prepared to stand up for what he believes in against the fascist scum in power.
I have apprehended a few serious thieves and thugs myself over the years, and none have got more than a caution. Otis is being made an example of ...he is therefore a political prisoner.

In the words of Martin Niemöller

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

When Labour came to power they banned fur faming without doing any research on welfare on the grounds of 'public morality'. This was a serious breach of constitutional law, and set a dangerous precedent. They then set about ignoring thier own report on foxhunting in which 600 vets signed a document affirming hunting with hounds was not cruel. They brought it into law with a flagrant abuse of the parliament act.The Nazis, I may remind everyone, also banned foxhunting on an animal rights agenda. Himmler actually invented the phrase animal rights in an SS article.
The Nazis also banned smoking in public, using the same absurd so called evidence used today. Labour have also done this.

Here is Professor Mark Almond of Oxford university one of the leading modern history academics warning of this parallel.
http://www.editrixoffice.com/sport_hitler.htm

Since then of course we have had bans on burkhas, unbelievable surveillance intrusions, talk of detention extensions and I/D cards, police arresting mps and searchng their offices without a warrant. etc etc.

Now we face perhaps the most outrageous law ever to be passed in the UK. From january the 26th it will be illegal to own/take a photograph in which the model is depicted apparently suffering violence intmidaton or imprisonment eg bondage. THis will impact things like the vast majority of people interested in mild consensal s and m and models who make living from providing such imgagery....and that is why people like fashion designer vivienne westwood's son of Agent provocateur which plays on mild fetish stuff is leading the fight aganst it.
AS AN ARTIST THIS IS AN OUTRAGEOUS INFRINGEMENT OF OUR RIGHT TO PRODUCE IMAGERY AND OUR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
It means this shoot done by Nick Horler for example for my model Bridie's website will be illegal...and its just mild erotic fun. But because it looks like a 'victim' is havng her throat ripped out it will be deemed illegal.
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Make no mistake about it this government is fascist.

I find it an absolute disgrace that people in a racing forum can possibly think that there can be any separation of foxhunting and National HUNT racing. Every jumps jockey owes their apprenticeship to exploits in the hunting field; and most retired horses still like an outing and find fullfilling retirement thanks to it.

SO DON'T EXPECT US TO DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU THERE WILL NO ONE LEFT TO SPEAK UP FOR YOU.

SO I stand shoulder to shoulder with Otis Ferry; and again invite those of you who care about hard fought for freedoms to join us.
 
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well you clearly haven't any or you wouldn't resort to foul mouthed personal abuse; a failure of ability to communicate. However I DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO USE FOUL LANGUAGE; it's your freedom of speech as it is mine to express my views.
 
Oh, stop shouting would you Dave?

Tell me, is it possible for you or your friend to make any posts without resorting to shameless spamming of your own websites???

Some of us are very much pro-hunting but it still doesn't mean we have to agree with what you're saying, I'm afraid.

As for the picture you put up, it just looks like three drunks at a fancy dress party.
 
I find it an absolute disgrace that people in a racing forum can possibly think that there can be any separation of foxhunting and National HUNT racing

The biggest myth of all. It is astounding that anyone could seriously believe that the future of a growing and successful sport is dependent on the killing of animals for fun.

A horse can only learn to jump and a jockey can only learn how to ride if a fox is torn to shreds?

I cant be bothered with this debate. Been gone over enough times but this simpleton thinking is an insult to those of of us dont doff their cap at the local gentry, dont have strange looking closely related kids and can read without moving the lips
 
"I find it an absolute disgrace that people in a racing forum can possibly think that there can be any separation of foxhunting and National HUNT racing. Every jumps jockey owes their apprenticeship to exploits in the hunting field; and most retired horses still like an outing and find fullfilling retirement thanks to it"

Absolute shite!

I don't support fox hunting at all, but several of our local point to points that I attend are run by drag hunts
 
Lets get one thing straight from the start. Otis Ferry is no suffragette, Tolpuddle Martyr, Civil Rights or anti-apartheid campaigner or anything that might broadly claim to have the high moral ground of social advancement on his side. In fact he's probably closer to a spoilt little rich kid whose had his toys taken away from him for the time being. I doubt very much he was showing the same concern or vigour in opposing something like the poll tax, which did succeed in galvanising a support base well, beyond that of a narrow self-interest group.

I'm actually in favour of direct action at certain times, and even a good old fashioned riot, but I also accept that any one indulging thus knows the risks they run and in that respect Ferry doesn't have a leg to stand on, anymore than he makes for a particularly appealing victim either. In fact the pro-hunt lobby would be better served for PR purposes by sidelining him

Many things New Labour might be David, but right now I'm struggling to see them as nazis incarnate. Indeed, your own posts exhibit more of a trait in that direction when it comes to political opposition (and I quote)

"Fear not when I come to power BROWN AND BLAIRS HEADS ARE GOING ON TRAITORS GATE FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE COUNTRYSIDE".

What your saying potentially, is democracy is fine so long as it backs up your own ideas, but if it happens to conflict with your own ideas then you'd happily advocate resorting to fascism yourself, which looks a bit uneasy given that you're trying to resurrect its spectre in your own argument for validation purposes. Interesting, but then it's no less contradictory than your condemnation of Newbury for appealing to a baser level of customer, whilst invoking 'Sport' newspapers as an advocate for 'your' model.
 
Many things New Labour might be David, but right now I'm struggling to see them as nazis incarnate. Indeed, your own posts exhibit more of a trait in that direction when it comes to political opposition (and I quote)

"Fear not when I come to power BROWN AND BLAIRS HEADS ARE GOING ON TRAITORS GATE FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE COUNTRYSIDE".

What your saying potentially, is democracy is fine so long as it backs up your own ideas, but if it happens to conflict with your own ideas then you'd happily advocate resorting to fascism yourself, which looks a bit uneasy given that you're trying to resurrect its spectre in your own argument for validation purposes. Interesting, but then it's no less contradictory than your condemnation of Newbury for appealing to a baser level of customer, whilst invoking 'Sport' newspapers as an advocate for 'your' model.
That's one post by Warbler I enjoyed wading through! :D
 
lets get one thing straight from the start. Otis ferry is no suffragette, tolpuddle martyr, civil rights or anti-apartheid campaigner or anything that might broadly claim to have the high moral ground of social advancement on his side. In fact he's probably closer to a spoilt little rich kid whose had his toys taken away from him for the time being. I doubt very much he was showing the same concern or vigour in opposing something like the poll tax, which did succeed in galvanising a support base well, beyond that of a narrow self-interest group.
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No definition of social advancement. Having a right and a traditional practice removed is in breach of the rio declaration on the envronment and most conservationists are pro hunting. The nazis also banned foxhunting on the same excuse; as you would have read if you had linked to professor mark almond's article.
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I'm actually in favour of direct action at certain times, and even a good old fashioned riot, but i also accept that any one indulging thus knows the risks they run and in that respect ferry doesn't have a leg to stand on, anymore than he makes for a particularly appealing victim either. In fact the pro-hunt lobby would be better served for pr purposes by sidelining him
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pure opinion...you are entitled to it but there is no support for this claim. There are a thousand people on facebook campaign alone in just a couple of weeks including the likes of richard dunwoody and several other top jockeys; your commEnts about rioting demnstarte your personal bias. Millions are angry about the hunting ban; HALF A MILLION MARCHED IN LONDON ABOUT IT.
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Many things new labour might be david, but right now i'm struggling to see them as nazis incarnate. Indeed, your own posts exhibit more of a trait in that direction when it comes to political opposition (and i quote)
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again read mark almonds article...the nazis banned foxhunting and smoking .
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"fear not when i come to power brown and blairs heads are going on traitors gate for crimes against the countryside".
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That is meaningless coming from someone who will never get in power....its humour.
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What your saying potentially, is democracy is fine so long as it backs up your own ideas, but if it happens to conflict with your own ideas then you'd happily advocate resorting to fascism yourself, which looks a bit uneasy given that you're trying to resurrect its spectre in your own argument for validation purposes.

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I am an artist not a politician and have never revmoved anyone's right and always defended them. A Democracy that persctes minorities and rmovs their rights is an abuse of the principle of democracy.As there is no prospect of me ever becoming a politician and i will not compromise on liberty the accusation of fascism against me is ludicrous.

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Interesting, but then it's no less contradictory than your condemnation of newbury for appealing to a baser level of customer, whilst invoking 'sport' newspapers as an advocate for 'your' model.

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nothing wrong with the naked female body. Plenty wrong with marketing a racing spectacle with beer as it sells the sport short.
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