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Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle Sandown Sat March 7th

Sky are offering 25/1 about any horse winning this and following up by winning any race at the festival.

That strikes me as a decent bet because the majority are entered in both and would an Imperial Cup winner, under a penalty be 25/1 in whichever race they run in ?
 
The Pipes used to be the masters of landing the double but I think it's less and less likely to happen these days.

Still, is it likely to happen more often than once every 26 years? Very probably.

I might join you in that bet, just for fun. I can always lay off at sorter odds should the IC winner turn up midweek under its penalty.
 
wilsonl said:
Sky are offering 25/1 about any horse winning this and following up by winning any race at the festival.

That strikes me as a decent bet because the majority are entered in both and would an Imperial Cup winner, under a penalty be 25/1 in whichever race they run in ?
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That looks a rick. Surely it's a 12/1 shot max.
 
You are basically betting on whether the SP of the winner of the Imperial Cup will be at the festival. 25/1 was a bet but 14/1 is too tight.
 
You are actually betting that Christopher Wood, Leoncavallo, Zanza, Cliffs Of Dover or The Plotting Shed win, nothing else will qualify with a 6Lb penalty.

I like the Plotting shed, already on for one bonus when he beat WHo Dares Wins at Plumpton. but he's available at 50/1 NRNB for the only race entered at the meeting (think that's a mistake by 365) and if they fancy their chances, why would they jeopardise it!
 
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Maxbet said:
You are actually betting that Christopher Wood, Leoncavallo, Zanza, Cliffs Of Dover or The Plotting Shed win, nothing else will qualify with a 6Lb penalty.

I like the Plotting shed, already on for one bonus when he beat WHo Dares Wins at Plumpton. but he's available at 50/1 NRNB for the only race entered at the meeting (think that's a mistake by 365) and if they fancy their chances, why would they jeopardise it!
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Fair enough.
 
Main Fact has just put down a serious marker for the Pipes. Was up 12lb today and gave them a fair beating. will get in at the bottom of the weights with a penalty.

14/1 with Bet365 is a fair enough price.
 
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Ratings range of the last three County Hurdles:

2019 153-123
2018 154-133
2017 158-134

I'm not sure what the circumstances were last year that allowed the floor to go so low - unusually heavy ground? - but it would mean Main Fact would have to win on Saturday to have any real chance of getting in.

He'll go up to 128 under his penalty. Does anyone know for certain if another 5lbs penalty will accrue or will it be a 'compound' penalty of, say, 7lbs?

It might just end up a brilliant bit of campaigning by Pipe to get him into the bottom of the Imperial Cup - he'll make the cut - and maybe the County.

I'd love him to pull it off. He strikes me as much more honest and affable than his old man.
 
His horses are in serious form and Main Fact looked one to take on up 12lbs but they absolutely smashed it in the betting. He will be interesting in the Imperial Cup.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Ratings range of the last three County Hurdles:

2019 153-123
2018 154-133
2017 158-134

I'm not sure what the circumstances were last year that allowed the floor to go so low - unusually heavy ground? - but it would mean Main Fact would have to win on Saturday to have any real chance of getting in.

He'll go up to 128 under his penalty. Does anyone know for certain if another 5lbs penalty will accrue or will it be a 'compound' penalty of, say, 7lbs?

It might just end up a brilliant bit of campaigning by Pipe to get him into the bottom of the Imperial Cup - he'll make the cut - and maybe the County.

I'd love him to pull it off. He strikes me as much more honest and affable than his old man.
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It Used to be 4Lb....last two years, 6Lb
 
Slim said:
Main Fact has just put down a serious marker for the Pipes. Was up 12lb today and gave them a fair beating. will get in at the bottom of the weights with a penalty.

14/1 with Bet365 is a fair enough price.
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I read this forum with interest but don’t really contribute much because you guys are in a different league when it comes to form!

However, yesterday I was at Wetherby and backed Main Fact so I was watching him closely through my binos. Down the back I said to my old man he was struggling big time and his race was done, but he obviously picked up later and won nicely. The only thing I took out of it was the back straight and bottom corner was horrible ground yesterday, yet the home straight was drying all the time. Could this have been a factor?


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Maxbet said:
It Used to be 4Lb....last two years, 6Lb
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MF carries a 4lb penalty on Saturday. Needs two to come out, possibly one if the handicapper goes by his new mark which will certainly be more than 4lbs higher than yesterday.

I suppose there's a chance the rest might just stand their ground.
 
HopeValleyMatt said:
I read this forum with interest but don’t really contribute much because you guys are in a different league when it comes to form!

However, yesterday I was at Wetherby and backed Main Fact so I was watching him closely through my binos. Down the back I said to my old man he was struggling big time and his race was done, but he obviously picked up later and won nicely. The only thing I took out of it was the back straight and bottom corner was horrible ground yesterday, yet the home straight was drying all the time. Could this have been a factor?


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I think the biggest factor was that Harry Skelton can't ride horses. His mount was always going to be played late and rge race was setup perfectly for him but Harry lost balance two out.

In terms of Saturday there is only one horse I would have a proper smash at and that's Entoucas.
 
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Entoucas not among the 19 declared

Totterdown Malaya Elusive Belle Jolly's Cracked It Speredek Sir Valentine Tamaroc Du Mathan West To The Bridge Bullionaire Mack The Man Dostal Phil Neff Endlessly Applesandpierres Shakem Up'arry Main Fact Ashington Aiguille Rouge Man of Plenty
 

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