It's A Miracle...

[Guest_]

Noel Meade just had a winner...

 

[Sara]

Yes dammit
I'd backed Jagoes Mills there, what happened to him?

will be interesting to see what happens with the rest of the Meade horses today
Sounded like that one had to battle a bit too

 

[Sara]

Make that two :brows:

 

[Melendez]

Maybe there is something wrong with O'Leary's stable - 4 runners without a winner.

 

[Sara]

I would have expected Jagoes Mills to be thereabouts Mel, but he wasn't placed was he?

 

[Melendez]

6th, beaten about 10l, according to Sporting Life.

 

[Colin Phillips]

Jagoes Mills was dismounted by Russell before getting back to the unsaddling area, possibly sustained an injury of sorts. shrug::

 

[PRICEWISE2008]

Good to see Meade back among the winners..hard to keep a good man down for long as they say...

 

[Melendez]

Well, no longer than two months anyway.

 

[Sara]

Originally posted by Colin Phillips@Feb 20 2008, 03:13 PM
Jagoes Mills was dismounted by Russell before getting back to the unsaddling area, possibly sustained an injury of sorts. shrug::

Ah that probably explains it, on paper at least he was the best in the race
Hope it's nothing serious

Carberry has won 4 today well done to him

 

[Bobbyjo]

Great to see Meade horses coming back....

Come on Harchie!

 

[sunybay]

Carberry impressive again today.

 

[LUKE]

Delighted to see Meade back -lets hope his team are at their best for the festival.

 

[Homer J]

COME ON HARCHI - my fav horse in training

 

[Euronymous]

Originally posted by Homer J@Feb 20 2008, 10:42 PM
COME ON HARCHI - my fav horse in training

Seconded (NH anyway)

 

[trackside528]

If the Jered gets three miles (as Meade believes he will), how far will he win the Coral Cup by?

 

[Bobbyjo]

Ehhh not too far if connections were under the impression it was a three mile race!!!

 

[trackside528]

Good point. My mistake.

 

[Bar the Bull]

I think that Irish hurdlers will struggle at Cheltenham in handicaps this year.

 

[useful]

Originally posted by Bar the Bull@Feb 21 2008, 09:03 AM
I think that Irish hurdlers will struggle at Cheltenham in handicaps this year.

Why?

 

[Bar the Bull]

The performances of Irish hurdlers like Jayo and Viso and Victram in handicap hurdles in England this year suggests to me that the English handicapper is treating them a little bit harshly.

 

[useful]

I think this is an "old chestnut" trotted out by Irish trainers time and again to explain the poor performances of their horses in English Handicaps.

It didn't stop them monopolising the Cheltenham Handicaps 2 years ago, and they also managed to fill 4 of the 12 places last year. Were they badly handicapped then?

 

[Bar the Bull]

I think that the handicapper has oscillated between poorly treating Irish horses and leniently treating them.

 

[Guest_]

Given that Irish horses have done well in the graded hurdle events at Cheltenham and the over all profile of the Irish hurdlers is stronger than their UK counterparts it should surely be expected that Irish hurdlers would be to the fore in the handicaps. You point out that Irish hurdlers did well 2 years ago…I think the arrangements are certainly different now than back then.

I cannot think of a major handicap in England this year that an Irish horse was strongly fancied or went close to winning.

Barker for instance….a hugely progressive horse in Ireland. I would imagine he will have little chance at Cheltenham given the likely mark the handicapper will give him.

 

[Harbinger]

The Greatwood?

Which kind of suggests to me that any Irish hurdler capable of winning a big British handicap during the season is unlikely to end up in a Cheltenham handicap come March.