July 1st ~ The End Of The Indoor Puff!

Sir Austin Bradford Hill, who first discovered the increase in risk of squamous and oat cell lung cancer among active smokers found absolutely no association whatsoever between smoking and adenocarcinomas.

50 years ago.

Also thanks to Google:

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/156/12/1114

"Adenocarcinoma of the Lung Is Strongly Associated with Cigarette Smoking: Further Evidence from a Prospective Study of Women"

(from 2002.)
 
Yes, that's the kind of language that serious scientists use when intepreting statistical evidence.

If you can find me the actual language that Sir Austin Bradford Hill used in his research, I'd be interested to see if it's as unequivocal as the "no association whatsoever" that you claim in your post.
 
Originally posted by The Pro@May 15 2007, 01:50 PM
Where does all the tax from Cigarettes go ?
I would assume a large-huge percentage to the N.H.S. to treat those who have breathing difficulties, or lung cancer, through either smoking or inhaling in a passive way............... :(
 
Originally posted by Merlin the Magician+May 30 2007, 02:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Merlin the Magician @ May 30 2007, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Pro@May 15 2007, 01:50 PM
Where does all the tax from Cigarettes go ?
I would assume a large-huge percentage to the N.H.S. to treat those who have breathing difficulties, or lung cancer, through either smoking or inhaling in a passive way............... :( [/b][/quote]
Tax on cigarettes, cigars or smoking tobacco, comes to £12 billion per year, six times more than any NHS bills run up by nicotine addicts apparenty. shrug::
 
I grew up in a relentlessly smoking household - my father worked for Players, as did his brother and many of their freinds. The house was always full of free ciggies, and lotsa smoke. I started when I was about 18, though I'd taken puffs before that. My sister never started as she had bad asthma growing up [no doubt the smoke was a partial cause]. I took loads of time off school with bronchial and sinus problems. But almost everyone smoked in the 50s and 60s. My freebies made me really popular when I first went to university...

I finally gave up aged c28, following years of chronic respiratory disease, and I still suffer from all sorts of respiratory / ENT problems. Ciggy smoke crucifies me - I'm ethically totally against banning things, but cigarette smoke totally disables people prone to sinus and lung disease, even if it doesn't kill us. My father died of lung cancer, as did several friends and two of my ex-lovers, both chain smokeers all their lives. It's not a death I'd wish on anyone. The one who lived longest also had emphesyma for many years - a really horrible disease which cause dhim to cough up vits of lung after any sort of excercise [!!]. My dad had artereosclerosis from his 50s as well, so couldn't walk far, which really upset him too.

The matter of stinking clothes and hair and the foul smell of cigarette smoke - esp stale smoke, nasty though that is, is a small matter beside the damage that tobacco smoke does. So yes, I'm really looking forward to the day...

Btw, studies show 'black tobacco' as found in eg Gitanes, or Russian or Spanish brands, is far less harmful than the cured Virginia most people smoke. It's the curing and the chemical additive which kill, not tobacco itself. So if you must smoke, change your brand to black tobacco or even roll-ups which don't have so many chemicals in them
 
The smell from the 'black' tobacco fags is less unpleasant, too, if one has to put up with it. So strange to be out for a meal with a friend a few days ago, on the seafront. The main doors to the restaurant were open and the smoke from five people sitting near to them was wafted in on the sea breezes. I have to say it didn't go too well with my scallops - it surprised me to realize that I've been exposed to very little smoke while dining out, and my friend whinged piteously. Nothing one can do, of course, as the smokers still have the right to light up, but after this reminder of what it can be like, I'm pleased that eating won't be Sea Bass Menthol in future!
 
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