Mighty Camelot retired

I would put his stud fee in at £5-7k. No way could he stand higher than Motivator or Manduro at present.

Can't see him ever siring a Gr.1 winner, maybe a long term replacement for Theatrical or Oscar.
 
A good class mile and a half horse who was ruined by connections. Shouldn't have run in the Leger or the Arc and should have had at least one go at a big 12 furlong race this year.
 
I will never understand that Irish derby run. Is it me or is ballydoyle more prone to odd decisions these days?
 
Very strange indeed. Their best 3yo hasn't been out since Royal Ascot, and shouldn't have run in the SJP having hurt himself a few days prior. And they'd have been as well stuffing a hundred bags down a Longchamp grid than running Leading Light in the Arc.
 
Euronymous said:
Not broken, but still a good stone below his best form.
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depends how juiced the winner was. :ninja:

think they were trying to be sporting as it was the first time they'd done the irish derby on a saturday evening and were desperate to have a big name running in it to try and boost the crowd.

maybe ballydoyle felt they wanted to do their bit and i can indeed remember them pulling imperial monarch out of the race on the day instead of camelot on account of the going which is pretty ridiculous when you look back at it now.

i'm sure they regret the decision.
 
JamesRB said:
depends how juiced the winner was. :ninja:

think they were trying to be sporting as it was the first time they'd done the irish derby on a saturday evening and were desperate to have a big name running in it to try and boost the crowd.

maybe ballydoyle felt they wanted to do their bit and i can indeed remember them pulling imperial monarch out of the race on the day instead of camelot on account of the going which is pretty ridiculous when you look back at it now.

i'm sure they regret the decision.
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I seem to remember lots of people were pleased about him running in Ireland at the time...the only problem was the ground which he floundered on and instead of having a canter through... had a tough race against a horse he should have beaten with head in chest..spent him on the ground imo
 
Agreed.
In fairness to Ballydoyle they ran the horse openly and fully, going for Irish Derby, St Leger Arc and keeping him in training as a 4 year old .
Whatever he did they were on a hiding to nothing with the horse.
The first Montjeu to win a Group 1 over a mile at 3 must be worth something!
Last week they were talking of running him at Dundalk; On The Bridle must have talked them out of it !
 
Coolmore will always support the Irish Derby with their best horses. It makes sense for them to promote their national Derby, especially given its an annual benefit for them!

In retrospect surely you have to say Camelot won a shocking guineas and below average Derby?

Decent grade 1 horse? Yes. Mighty? No fckin chance!
 
How fine the margins can be in racing.

If Camelot had won the Leger he would have been hyped into immortality as the first triple crown winner in a generation. And there's a good chance he was wrongly deprived of it.
 
Never liked the horse he was overrated and hyped to hell by AOB...Mighty is hardly a word I would use to describe him. He won the 7 furlong Derby is it is fondly known which may well have been the poorest Derby of modern times
 
It is a pity that he was sick in the springtime or we might have seen a different horse this season.

As Grey has said, he was in all likelihood robbed of the triple crown albeit in a poor crop.
 
I think he needed a year off to recover from his surgery, and then I think he would have shown us something properly impressive after that. It's a shame they didnt take this route as I think it would have done a lot for his reputation.

Nx
 
Euronymous said:
Very strange indeed. Their best 3yo hasn't been out since Royal Ascot, and shouldn't have run in the SJP having hurt himself a few days prior. And they'd have been as well stuffing a hundred bags down a Longchamp grid than running Leading Light in the Arc.
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Agree they've had a bad season by their standards, especially in race planning.

Whilst I think that Magician is their best 3yo, they've had horses make impressions like him before that have turned out to be below what was expected. Await The Dawn & Cape Blanco (to a lesser extent) for example both looked world beaters early on before fading into obscurity (running in cack US turf races and getting beat in Dubai).

I suspect Magician will be another one who goes down the same route.
 
Harsh on Cape Blanco Stan, he did win five group/grade 1's. Three of those in his final three runs. His only bad runs were the Arc (ground too soft) and the Queen Anne. They achieved what they wanted to with him in the end.
 
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