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Slim

Slim

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Are you seriously telling me they had a two-minute silence for ‘VJ Day’? What the f%*& is wrong with racing? Jockeys wearing black armbands and heads bowed for the massacre inflicted by a nuclear weapon. Racing on the pulse, as per usual.
 
Careful, slim. The VJ Day commemoration is about paying tribute to the service and sacrifice of those who fought in the Far East. Lest we forget. Ghastly as it was, it’s not about the nuclear destruction.
 
barjon said:
Careful, slim. The VJ Day commemoration is about paying tribute to the service and sacrifice of those who fought in the Far East. Lest we forget. Ghastly as it was, it’s not about the nuclear destruction.
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Careful? f%*& off. I'm embarrassed for the jockeys. Sport should never be political.
 
I agree with Slim and I do get extremely uncomfortable with all these VE/VJ etc 'celebrations'.

I'd be much more comfortable with a commemoration of some sort of "Peace in Europe" or "Peace in Japan" event, focusing on the horror of nuclear weaponry in the latter and remembering all the fallen together. Rubbing salt in the wounds of the defeated nations does nothing for world peace going forward.

Japan is now talking about rearming and that should put the shiters right up anyone with a brain cell in their bonce.
 
for anyone interested................


NEWMARKET Horse Racing Trends (ITV/RacingTV)

2:05 – Jenningsbet Grey Horse Handicap (for Grey Horses Only) Cl4 6f ITV4
21/22 – Didn’t win last time out
19/22 – Had 4 or more runs already that season
18/22 – Had won over 6f before
18/22 – Winning distance of 1 length or less
16/22 – Returned 10/1 or shorter in the betting
16/22 – Aged 5 or older
15/22 – Had 3 or more career wins
15/22 – Aged 5, 6 or 7 years-old
14/22 – Carried 9-1 or less
9/22 – Unplaced favourites
3/22 – Winning favourites
2/22 – Trained by Mick Appleby (2 of the last 8)
The last 10 winners aged 3-6 years-old
4 of the last 7 winners from stalls 4 or lower
6 of the last 9 winners between stalls 4-9
Archduke Ferdinand won this race last season
Silver Samurai won this race in 2023
Strike won the race in 2022 2nd in 2024 and 6th in 2023

SureWin Best Bet: STRIKE
SureWin Danger: SILVER SAMURAI

NEWBURY Horse Racing Trends (ITV/RacingTV)

1:50 – Highclere Thoroughbred Racing Geoffrey Freer Stakes (Group 3) Cl1 1m5f61y ITV4
23/23 – Had won at least twice in their career
20/23 – Had won over 1m4f or further before
18/23 – Aged 3-5 years-old
18/23 – Returned 4/1 or shorter in the betting
17/23 – Winning distance of 1 ¼ lengths or more
16/23 – Finished 1st or 2nd last time out
16/23 – Drawn in stall 3 or higher
15/23 – Officially rated 110 or higher
14/23 – Winning favourites
13/23 – Ran at Goodwood or Newmarket last time out
11/23 – Had already won a Group race
10/23 – Had won at Newbury before
9 of the last 10 winners from stalls 2-6
No winner from stall 1 in the last 10
3 of the last 7 winners from stall 2
Jim Crowley has ridden 3 of the last 5 winners

SureWin Best Bet: PINHOLE
SureWin Danger: FURTHER


2:25 – BetVictor Handicap Cl3 (3yo+ 0-88) 5f ITV4
Two previous running
Faustus (16/1) won the race in 2024
The Cook/Bridger and Channon yards have won this race before
No winning favourite yet
Both winners from stalls 2-4
Trainer Andrew Balding is just 2 from 56 with his 4 year-olds at the track
Trainer Ralph Beckett has just a 6% SR with his 3 year-olds at the track
Trainer Clive Cox is just 1-26 (4%) with his 4+ year-olds at the track
Jockey Jim Crowley has a 23% riding 4+ year-olds at the track

SureWin Best Bet: GETREADYTORUMBLE
SureWin Danger: FAUSTUS


3.00 – TPT Fire Handicap Cl3 (3yo+ 0-95) 7f ITV4

13/14 - Aged between 3-6 (inc)
13/14 - Carried 9-1 or more in weight
11/14 - Had won over 7f or further before
10/14 - Won between 2-4 times before
10/14 - Rated between 90-98 (inc)
9/14 - Finished 5th or better last time out
9/14 - Aged 4 or 5 years-old
8/14 - Carried between 9-1 and 9-7
8/14 - Had raced at Newbury before
7/14 - Irish bred
5/14 - Ran at Ascot last time out
2/14 - Trained by William Haggas (2 of the last 8)
2/14 – Trained by Clive Cox (2 of last 5)
2/14 - Winning favourites
2/14 - Won last time out
The 3 of the last 6 winners came from stall 6
9 of the last 12 winners came from stalls 7 or lower
Documenting (7/2) won the race in 2022 and 3rd in 2024

SureWin Best Bet: LOU LOU'S GIFT
SureWin Danger: DOCUMENTING


3.35 – BetVictor Hungerford Stakes (Group 2) Cl1 7f ITV4

21/23 – Didn’t win last time out
19/23 – Had won a Listed or Group race before
19/23 – Had won over this 7f trip before
19/23 – Officially rated 108 or more
18/23 – Aged 3 or 4 years-old
18/23 – Had won 3 or more times already in their career
17/23 – Had 3 or more previous runs already that season
13/23 – Had run at Newbury before (5 won)
9/23 – Ran at Goodwood last time out
2/22 – Trained by William Haggas (3 of the last 10)
14 of the last 16 winners were all draw 6 or lower
Just one winner from stall 1 in the last 16 runnings

SureWin Best Bet: WITNESS STAND
SureWin Danger: DUTY FIRST


RIPON Horse Racing Trends (ITV/ATR)

2:45 William Hill Silver Cup Handicap Cl4 (3yo+ 0-80) 6f ITV4
One two runnings
Trainers Paul Midgley and Nigel Tinker have won this race before
Both winners from stalls 10-12
No winning favourite yet
Both winners carried between 9-11 and 9-12
Trainer Grant Tuer is just 1-from-49 with his 4+ year-olds at the track

SureWin Best Bet: NOVELLO LAD
SureWin Danger: DICKO THE LEGEND


3:20 – William Hill Great St Wilfrid Stakes (Handicap) Cl2 6f ITV4

20/23 – Previous winners over 6f
17/23 – Aged between 4-6 years-old
17/23 – Didn’t win last time out
16/23– Winning distance of 1 length or less
15/23 – Carried 8-11 or more
14/23 – Returned a double-figure price in the betting
14/23 – Finished unplaced last time out
13/23 - Had run at Ripon before (5 won)
13/23 – Had 5 or more previous runs already that season
12/23 – Unplaced favourites
10/23 – Ran at either Goodwood (7) or Newmarket (3) last time out
7/23 – Aged 4 years-old
7/23 – Winning favourites (6 in the last 12)
3/23 – Trained by David O’Meara (3 of last 14)
3/23 – Ridden by Daniel Tudhope
3/23 – Ridden by Connor Beasley
3/23 – Trained by Richard Fahey (3 of last 12)
2/23 – Aged 3 years-old
No winner from stall 1 in the last 19 runnings
8 of the last 19 winners came from stalls 8-13 (inc)
Only 8 winning favourites since 1990
Since 1986 ALL bar one winner returned 20/1 or less

SureWin Best Bet: ROCK OPERA
SureWin Danger: SECRET GUEST
 
luckyme said:
for anyone interested................


NEWMARKET Horse Racing Trends (ITV/RacingTV)

2:05 – Jenningsbet Grey Horse Handicap (for Grey Horses Only) Cl4 6f ITV4
21/22 – Didn’t win last time out
19/22 – Had 4 or more runs already that season
18/22 – Had won over 6f before
18/22 – Winning distance of 1 length or less
16/22 – Returned 10/1 or shorter in the betting
16/22 – Aged 5 or older
15/22 – Had 3 or more career wins
15/22 – Aged 5, 6 or 7 years-old
14/22 – Carried 9-1 or less
9/22 – Unplaced favourites
3/22 – Winning favourites
2/22 – Trained by Mick Appleby (2 of the last 8)
The last 10 winners aged 3-6 years-old
4 of the last 7 winners from stalls 4 or lower
6 of the last 9 winners between stalls 4-9
Archduke Ferdinand won this race last season
Silver Samurai won this race in 2023
Strike won the race in 2022 2nd in 2024 and 6th in 2023

SureWin Best Bet: STRIKE
SureWin Danger: SILVER SAMURAI

NEWBURY Horse Racing Trends (ITV/RacingTV)

1:50 – Highclere Thoroughbred Racing Geoffrey Freer Stakes (Group 3) Cl1 1m5f61y ITV4
23/23 – Had won at least twice in their career
20/23 – Had won over 1m4f or further before
18/23 – Aged 3-5 years-old
18/23 – Returned 4/1 or shorter in the betting
17/23 – Winning distance of 1 ¼ lengths or more
16/23 – Finished 1st or 2nd last time out
16/23 – Drawn in stall 3 or higher
15/23 – Officially rated 110 or higher
14/23 – Winning favourites
13/23 – Ran at Goodwood or Newmarket last time out
11/23 – Had already won a Group race
10/23 – Had won at Newbury before
9 of the last 10 winners from stalls 2-6
No winner from stall 1 in the last 10
3 of the last 7 winners from stall 2
Jim Crowley has ridden 3 of the last 5 winners

SureWin Best Bet: PINHOLE
SureWin Danger: FURTHER


2:25 – BetVictor Handicap Cl3 (3yo+ 0-88) 5f ITV4
Two previous running
Faustus (16/1) won the race in 2024
The Cook/Bridger and Channon yards have won this race before
No winning favourite yet
Both winners from stalls 2-4
Trainer Andrew Balding is just 2 from 56 with his 4 year-olds at the track
Trainer Ralph Beckett has just a 6% SR with his 3 year-olds at the track
Trainer Clive Cox is just 1-26 (4%) with his 4+ year-olds at the track
Jockey Jim Crowley has a 23% riding 4+ year-olds at the track

SureWin Best Bet: GETREADYTORUMBLE
SureWin Danger: FAUSTUS


3.00 – TPT Fire Handicap Cl3 (3yo+ 0-95) 7f ITV4

13/14 - Aged between 3-6 (inc)
13/14 - Carried 9-1 or more in weight
11/14 - Had won over 7f or further before
10/14 - Won between 2-4 times before
10/14 - Rated between 90-98 (inc)
9/14 - Finished 5th or better last time out
9/14 - Aged 4 or 5 years-old
8/14 - Carried between 9-1 and 9-7
8/14 - Had raced at Newbury before
7/14 - Irish bred
5/14 - Ran at Ascot last time out
2/14 - Trained by William Haggas (2 of the last 8)
2/14 – Trained by Clive Cox (2 of last 5)
2/14 - Winning favourites
2/14 - Won last time out
The 3 of the last 6 winners came from stall 6
9 of the last 12 winners came from stalls 7 or lower
Documenting (7/2) won the race in 2022 and 3rd in 2024

SureWin Best Bet: LOU LOU'S GIFT
SureWin Danger: DOCUMENTING


3.35 – BetVictor Hungerford Stakes (Group 2) Cl1 7f ITV4

21/23 – Didn’t win last time out
19/23 – Had won a Listed or Group race before
19/23 – Had won over this 7f trip before
19/23 – Officially rated 108 or more
18/23 – Aged 3 or 4 years-old
18/23 – Had won 3 or more times already in their career
17/23 – Had 3 or more previous runs already that season
13/23 – Had run at Newbury before (5 won)
9/23 – Ran at Goodwood last time out
2/22 – Trained by William Haggas (3 of the last 10)
14 of the last 16 winners were all draw 6 or lower
Just one winner from stall 1 in the last 16 runnings

SureWin Best Bet: WITNESS STAND
SureWin Danger: DUTY FIRST


RIPON Horse Racing Trends (ITV/ATR)

2:45 William Hill Silver Cup Handicap Cl4 (3yo+ 0-80) 6f ITV4
One two runnings
Trainers Paul Midgley and Nigel Tinker have won this race before
Both winners from stalls 10-12
No winning favourite yet
Both winners carried between 9-11 and 9-12
Trainer Grant Tuer is just 1-from-49 with his 4+ year-olds at the track

SureWin Best Bet: NOVELLO LAD
SureWin Danger: DICKO THE LEGEND


3:20 – William Hill Great St Wilfrid Stakes (Handicap) Cl2 6f ITV4

20/23 – Previous winners over 6f
17/23 – Aged between 4-6 years-old
17/23 – Didn’t win last time out
16/23– Winning distance of 1 length or less
15/23 – Carried 8-11 or more
14/23 – Returned a double-figure price in the betting
14/23 – Finished unplaced last time out
13/23 - Had run at Ripon before (5 won)
13/23 – Had 5 or more previous runs already that season
12/23 – Unplaced favourites
10/23 – Ran at either Goodwood (7) or Newmarket (3) last time out
7/23 – Aged 4 years-old
7/23 – Winning favourites (6 in the last 12)
3/23 – Trained by David O’Meara (3 of last 14)
3/23 – Ridden by Daniel Tudhope
3/23 – Ridden by Connor Beasley
3/23 – Trained by Richard Fahey (3 of last 12)
2/23 – Aged 3 years-old
No winner from stall 1 in the last 19 runnings
8 of the last 19 winners came from stalls 8-13 (inc)
Only 8 winning favourites since 1990
Since 1986 ALL bar one winner returned 20/1 or less

SureWin Best Bet: ROCK OPERA
SureWin Danger: SECRET GUEST
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I take it Tanya Stevenson is behind this stuff?
 
Slim said:
Careful? f%*& off. I'm embarrassed for the jockeys. Sport should never be political.
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But sport always has been right back to the days of Joe Louis v Max Schmeling and probably even before that tbh.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Rubbing salt in the wounds of the defeated nations does nothing for world peace going forward.
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If Britain had been on the wrong end of a couple of World War final scores, people would more readily be able to see where Maurice (and maybe slim) are coming from.

Right Charlie (III) was saying this week World War heroes will never be forgotten.

Of course they will.

Can anyone name anyone who fell at Agincourt?

Or in the defeat of the Spanish Armada?

Time....passes.

Memories....fade.

Like everyone, I'm glad I live in a (relatively) free country but people cling to this stuff like a security blanket - Britain isn't "Great" any more (if it ever was) and "Victory" celebrations don't endear Britain to the rest of the world.

Sadly, Danny is right, politics in sport is nothing new - in the last week George Galloway goaded Mo Salah, who then goaded Uefa, into statements on Gaza after the death of the Palestine national football captain during the conflict.

But sport shouldn't be used as a vehicle for politics - I detested Countryside Alliance "vote Tory to save events like this" propaganda when I used to go Pointing and I detest racing doing the same - like Fakenham getting involved in Inheritance Tax for farmers.

No f$%*er in racing speaks for me and I disassociate myself from all of it.
 

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