Northumberland Plate 2012

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Hi everyone. I have two tickets for the Premier Enclosure this year and looking forward to a great day out.

Put the winners up on here please! Where is Moehat, she usually knows the winners for these things?

I like Ermyn Lodge at the moment who has an abundance of solid form and still not that high in the weights. I've looked at the trends and stats and havn't seen one that stands out like a sore thumb yet.

Appreciate your advice, the draw and ground should reveal a bit more.
 
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I can pick something out for the other races if you like,although that particular race i might not do take me half an hour to do that rrace and 6 meetings on saturday!:blink:
 
I'm posting up my idea of the first four winners after looking this evening.

NEWCASTLE 2:15 CHIPCHASE STAKES

Markab (NAP) is no stranger to the racing game at the age of 9 and has won over 400 grand for connections so far in his career, but is in great form, having had two runs so far this season, and won his last listed race decisively at Windsor. Quite frankly, this horse is an owners dream, usually always runs a good race and will take a lot of beating here if he lines up. He was once second in a Kings Stand Stakes and I don't think many here can compete with that form.

2:45 MOBILE SPORTS HANDICAP

The one that catches the eye is Baby Strange who has some excellent form with a very decent sprinter called Secret Witness. I backed Secret Witness at York when he won (with Baby Strange in second) and he franked the Baby Strange form a few days later at the same track with another good sprinter called Judge And Jury.

Baby Stange is a hold up horse, and hence the last two runs aren't actually that bad given he dwelt in the stalls at Epsom and was hampered at Lingfield. A reproduction of his best form would see him win here, and incidently Secret Witness is entered at the Curragh on Saturday, and may be one to watch himself having had a short rest break which he so often runs well from since his last run. Baby Strange is entered in the 3:55 at Newcastle on the same day.

3:20 NORTHUMBERLAD PLATE

This looks extra tricky to me this year and 10/1 field is a reflection of my thoughts on who could win. Without the draw and ground I am in the dark but my feeling is Ermyn Lodge is the class horse in the race and probably the one to be on. The Sir Mark Prescott horse looks interesting and Donald McCains horse will be popular to pull off the Chester Cup / Northumberland Plate double. Ermyn Lodge is a bit better off in the weights by two pounds with I'll Have Another on their Cesrerewitch first and second when beaten a length and a half and that could make all the difference on testing going over 2 miles.

3:55 BONUS KING HANDICAP

Treadwell lost his way and perhaps even injured himself after winning the Buckingham Palace Stakes at Ascot two years ago, being hammered on his four subsequent starts in 2010 and 2011. However, as a result he has slipped down the handicap and may race here on the back of a useful run at Haydock last time, where he was giving weight to the three horses who finished ahead of him. Certainly good to see him back racing again, and as long as he could cope with possible testing conditions which he's never encountered before, you'd have to give him a chance. His sire Footstepsinthesand won on soft so I'd be prepared to take a chance on that.

Marble
 
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gigilo said:
I can pick something out for the other races if you like,although that particular race i might not do take me half an hour to do that rrace and 6 meetings on saturday!:blink:
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Nice one Gig, well I've covered the first four but I don't mind, let me know whats hot and whats not, either on my early fancies or yours.:)
 
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I'll have a look at all of them prices will be up night before,the ground maybe decent as well hopefully.
 
Marble, I'm going to be in attendance on Saturday ( up there from Thursday onwards for some golf ). Would be good to try and meet up for a drink while at the course if you can.
 
Marb; after Moyenne Corniche winning whatever he won last year something must have gone wrong with my brain because the little radar I had for picking out winners in these lovely long distance handicaps stopped working. However, have a great day out; Newcastle is a course that I've yet to visit although we get to Kelso occasionally. Good race for picking up pointers for the Ebor, though. Also find these days that the bookies are very stingy with their prices and nice little 40/1 outsiders with a chance seem very thin on the ground.
 
Always appreciate your thoughts, Moehat.

Apparantly the course has taken about as much rain as it can take, anymore and we could be looking at inspections on Saturday morning.

3/4 of my early fancies not declared, but hey ho I'm happy Baby Strange goes in the second race if racing is on. I like that ones chances.
 
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Slightly, Luke. The rain has just stopped where I am near Gosforth, here's hoping for a dry day and a half.
 
You were right Luke. I reckon its about 4/11 now based on the racing post article it gets called off, but you never know.

Will they reschedule? Can't remember this happening to the Plate in my 10-15 years watching racing.
 
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That's some effort by the ground staff to get today's racing on - fair play to the Newcastle team.
 
The card is one that attracts me and I would go if it were nearer.

No great revelation from me unfortunately as my main bets are all favourites. I'm a fully paid-up, paid out, member of the Our Jonathan fan club, like Cheveton when the grounds right and now back at a winning weight, and think that McCain walks on water at the moment. So Ile de Re for me. Finally Fullbright can beat Memory Cloth if reproducing LTO form.

Simples????
 
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This is a lot tougher than the Chester Cup and I can't have anything near the top of the weights on this ground. The McCain horse is a huge lay at around 7/2.
 
So pleased that the race is on. Hard to see beyond Palazzo Bianco but you'd possibly want an older horse on such bottomless ground? Keep going back to High Office and French Hollow but I bet we get another withdrawal to take it to less than 16. However, my heart goes with Icon Dream because there's nothing I'd like better than to see Graham Lee in the winners enclosure, but they're probably just testing the water for later in the year [new stable and all that]. Hope you guys up there have a great day out!C'mon Graham!
 
So pleased that the race is on. Hard to see beyond Palazzo Bianco but you'd possibly want an older horse on such bottomless ground? Keep going back to High Office and French Hollow but I bet we get another withdrawal to take it to less than 16. However, my heart goes with Icon Dream because there's nothing I'd like better than to see Graham Lee in the winners enclosure, but they're probably just testing the water for later in the year [new stable and all that]. Hope you guys up there have a great day out!C'mon Graham! OOPs; not sure what happened there!
 
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The Betchworth Kid e/way for me - doesn't have gears but I hope he'll keep plodding on when others have cried enough - likely to run like a 2 1/2m race and stamina a must - has won on heavy over hurdles and dropping down the h'cap.
 
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