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Ok, this is a thread about getting worried about your health but being scared about doing something about it due to the current state of the NHS, and basically being a cowardly man re health and addressing it.

In about 1998 I worked with a guy called Frank in my manual labour days. I was in my 40s and he was late 50's. Anyway, he retired and me and my mate went to block pave his drive. Whilst we were there he was complaining about a pain in his side, he was putting a hot water bottle on it to ease the pain. Not kidding now, within a month he was in the hospital, on morphine, he had got terminal cancer and he died real quickly. I thought, bloody hell it can be all over just like that.

That memory really sticks with me and as we get older we get pains and sh*t that usually pass within a day or so. You wake up and something nawgs you through the day, but because I saw my good friend go through that, many times in past few years I get a pain, that maybe lasts for a couple of days, inside body pain, and think ..ffs am I getting the first signs of something like that?

Well obviously you get loads of sh&t like that, I am 68 now and live an unhealthy lifestyle. I smoke and am an alcoholic nowadays who drinks a lot of whisky, a lot. I have drunk a lot since 2016 when my life went to sh*t a bit, but before that, had never ever had an issue with drink.

Do you guys get these pains that go on for days?, inside body pains? I have one now, in my side, had it for a week, but I am scared to go near a doctor, like you can get near one anyway these days. I hate hospitals with a vengeance.

If I have something really bad like my friend Frank, wtf will they do to help me? The waiting lists for anything serious are mental. Are we all buggered if we get a serious illness now????

I will probably be ok in a day or two, but do any of you guys worry that if we do get something serious wrong with us, our NHS won't be able to help us any more?? I find I do worry that if now, you get cancer or whatever, you will not get help in time?
 
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It's entirely natural, I think, to be increasingly conscious of your own health vulnerabilities as you get older but I would always advise to see a doc asap if you have any concerns.

The earlier anything is found the more chance of a better outcome.

Then again, I'm the kind of person who copes better with bad news the more info I have about it.
 
Put it this way. If you feel a (consistent-ish) pain and don't go see someone (no matter how long it takes to get the appointment(s)), there are a lot better chances it'll have an adverse effect at some point/further on than if you just leave it.

Easy to say, I know. Not so easy to act on, depending on your make-up.

Don't know what it's like in Derby, but down the road here I would get a (standard) doctor's appointment in around a week (for a seemingly non-critical concern, and anywhere from 2 -8 months for a hospital referral resulting from that - depending partially on whether the doctor thought it was proper 'bad news' or not).

When I fell on my knee last Feb, I rang 111 (because it was pretty bad pain still 6 hours later) and I was in an ambulance on the way to h within 2 hours of that.

111 might be a good first option for you, EC. But as Dessie says, do something. Nowt to lose.
 
My dad always used to say that if any pain in your body passes within a day or two, then don’t worry about it. If that pain is more consistent and around the same area, then I would be at the GPs soon enough.
 
I had various pains for several days 4 years ago, right at the start of Covid. Stomach cramps were so bad that my friend made me go to A&E.
To cut a long story short, after a couple of weeks of treating me for chest infection they dis covered Leukaemia. I was transferred to University College London and spent 3 months in there.
Chemo was started while in hospital and has continued since, every 6 to 8 weeks and I'm still kicking, not as hard mind you!

Get your arse in gear and see the doctor!
 
walsworth said:
I had various pains for several days 4 years ago, right at the start of Covid. Stomach cramps were so bad that my friend made me go to A&E.
To cut a long story short, after a couple of weeks of treating me for chest infection they dis covered Leukaemia. I was transferred to University College London and spent 3 months in there.
Chemo was started while in hospital and has continued since, every 6 to 8 weeks and I'm still kicking, not as hard mind you!

Get your arse in gear and see the doctor!
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All my best wishes, W.

Keep on in there, mate.
 
Got loads of pain around my knees after falling on them after being fouled at five a sides. Was a wee bit worried and thankfully after a couple of days pain has eased though still very sore. Haven't been to my gp since covid began.
 
EC21 said:
Ok, this is a thread about getting worried about your health but being scared about doing something about it due to the current state of the NHS, and basically being a cowardly man re health and addressing it.

In about 1998 I worked with a guy called Frank in my manual labour days. I was in my 40s and he was late 50's. Anyway, he retired and me and my mate went to block pave his drive. Whilst we were there he was complaining about a pain in his side, he was putting a hot water bottle on it to ease the pain. Not kidding now, within a month he was in the hospital, on morphine, he had got terminal cancer and he died real quickly. I thought, bloody hell it can be all over just like that.

That memory really sticks with me and as we get older we get pains and sh*t that usually pass within a day or so. You wake up and something nawgs you through the day, but because I saw my good friend go through that, many times in past few years I get a pain, that maybe lasts for a couple of days, inside body pain, and think ..ffs am I getting the first signs of something like that?

Well obviously you get loads of sh&t like that, I am 68 now and live an unhealthy lifestyle. I smoke and am an alcoholic nowadays who drinks a lot of whisky, a lot. I have drunk a lot since 2016 when my life went to sh*t a bit, but before that, had never ever had an issue with drink.

Do you guys get these pains that go on for days?, inside body pains? I have one now, in my side, had it for a week, but I am scared to go near a doctor, like you can get near one anyway these days. I hate hospitals with a vengeance.

If I have something really bad like my friend Frank, wtf will they do to help me? The waiting lists for anything serious are mental. Are we all buggered if we get a serious illness now????

I will probably be ok in a day or two, but do any of you guys worry that if we do get something serious wrong with us, our NHS won't be able to help us any more?? I find I do worry that if now, you get cancer or whatever, you will not get help in time?
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I would say you have already taken the First step -there is no downside to seeing a GP.
 
Apart from hearing news you don't want to hear. I agree though no downside. As demi Moore said about Bruce Willis condition he's not the man he was but is still as beautiful as ever. I've accepted I can't do things I use to take for granted but forget and put too much strain on my body. Taking it easy till body recharges itself. Wee peroni before bed helping my sleep loads. I love the Italians even more now. God bless them and their wonderful nature. Have their faults but by god so do we all.
 
Yes. Peroni is a lovely beer.

I have another 8 days to go here in Spain but I realise I need to see the doc when I get home.

I've been trying to use the holiday to enhance the quality of how I go about living.

For breakfast I'm having loads of fresh fruit and a lightly fried egg and beans for protein.

Lunch is a large plateful of tomatoes with olive oil dressing and maybe some lean meat and fresh veg, followed by some fresh fruit, mainly watermelon.

Dinner is something similar.

And I'm not really tanking the bevy in between.

However, it was pointed out to me early last week that my left eye is badly bloodshot and this week I'm coughing like a miner.

I don't feel unwell (Mrs O is) but the cough has been there for over a week.

I suspect I have an URT infection and reckon a week of antibiotics will sort it but there's no escaping the fact that my house is 800ft above sea level and out in the country so I might well just be suffering from the effects of poorish air quality (which is what my phone is telling me).

That said, it hasn't stopped me giving it laldy at the karaoke bar in the evening!!
 
Had a few shandies watching carlisle yesterday,boy you need them as they are awful at the moment,but will be back being sensible with the alcohol. I do 3 days night shift which helps me avoid alcohol for at least 4 days. Most weeks I just have one or two peronis and some weeks none at all. Went 5 weeks without a drink not so long ago and felt great.
Thakfully i can't drink like I use to and my body tells me when I've had enough. Off to Spain in a couple of weeks for a wee bit r and r. Use to laugh at folk who went to holiday around Oct/Nov now love going away when it's miserable here which it certainly is today.
 
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Had a few shandies watching carlisle yesterday,boy you need them as they are awful at the moment,but will be back being sensible with the alcohol. I do 3 days night shift which helps me avoid alcohol for at least 4 days. Most weeks I just have one or two peronis and some weeks none at all. Went 5 weeks without a drink not so long ago and felt great.
Thakfully i can't drink like I use to and my body tells me when I've had enough. Off to Spain in a couple of weeks for a wee bit r and r. Use to laugh at folk who went to holiday around Oct/Nov now love going away when it's miserable here which it certainly is today.
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I'm 3 years off the drink.Don't miss it -from a parenting point of view my kids are 14 and 20 -I think it's easier to talk to them about drink if you aren't regularly going on the pish.
 
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I'm 3 years off the drink.Don't miss it -from a parenting point of view my kids are 14 and 20 -I think it's easier to talk to them about drink if you aren't regularly going on the pish.
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Exactly luke. I drank far too much when I were a lad and thankfully my two don't drink nearly so much but occasionally have a few.
 
My only contribution to this thread is to urge folk on statins to research the history of cholesterol and the effects of taking statins
 
geordiecolin said:
My only contribution to this thread is to urge folk on statins to research the history of cholesterol and the effects of taking statins
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High cholestral blocks the arteries and causes heart attacks, Colin.

What is your issue with Statins?

I have taken a small dose each day for a year. Cholestral was 7.1, which was very high, now under 4.

No side effects. A total no brainer to me
 
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Marb said:
High cholestral blocks the arteries and causes heart attacks, Colin.

What is your issue with Statins?

I have taken a small dose each day for a year. Cholestral was 7.1, which was very high, now under 4.

No side effects. A total no brainer to me
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You carry on and ignore me. No brainer is very apt :)
 
I’m on statins too. My doctor told me that ears ago my reading was something like 4 but there is”good” cholesterol and”bad” cholesterol and while my bad cholesterol was higher than ideal my good cholesterol was unusually high, which he said was a big positive for me. Around the same time I had a consultation with a cardio vascular surgeon and he told me if I take a statin and a small aspirin every day I will “live forever”. (It might have been around then that Mrs O put out a contract hot on the guy.)

I can’t take aspirin because of my weak stomach but I’m happy to continue with the statins. My last reading was something like 2.4.

Two of my nieces are doctors and I reckon if statins had issues they’d have been quick to make sure we all knew.
 
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Exactly luke. I drank far too much when I were a lad and thankfully my two don't drink nearly so much but occasionally have a few.
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My early twenties were dominated by heavy drinking at the weekends-I suppose on the bright side you could argue the road of excess leads to the path of wisdom.
My 20year old daughter loves socialising but usually 1or 2 drinks is enough for her.Her buzz is foreign travel.My 14 year Old son is a talented sportsman -I keep trying to tell him about the alternatives to drink and drugs -I worry about someone as competitive as him getting a taste for drink.
 
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Colin I'm asking for you to back up what you are saying.

You can't expect people to believe you if you can't back it up.
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The people who are against statins are usually the ones who are against the corona virus vaccine -I'm not saying they are wrong.
 
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Colin I'm asking for you to back up what you are saying.

You can't expect people to believe you if you can't back it up.
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I ask you to do your own research because I would never pretend to be a medic but there is a lot of convincing detail to be found out there that suggests that long term use of statins have a very debilitating effect.
I had a heart attack about 18 months ago and I stopped using them maybe 6 months ago yet I would rather suggest folk do their own research rather than listen to me. Age v benefit is a big part. I consider myself too young to take them.
 
I'm far from an expert, which is why I'd like Colin to explain more.

As I understand this, Statins may have side affects which many medications have. This doesn't mean everyone will get the side affects, and you could be absolutely fine like me.

As I say, just like to hear what Colin's issue is.

As for the Covid vaccines. That's an interesting one. I didn't really want to take it, but mum suffers from COPD lung disease, and the risk of her dying had she caught covid was such, that I was persuaded to have three vaccines to try and minimise the chance of her catching it.

Since then, I have had the occasional palpitations which come every few months. The onset is usually while sleeping.

I'm still not sure if these were caused the the covid vaccine?

Edit, seen you post above Colin. It seems as if you are not fully disclosing your own beliefs on why Statins are not good to take. I can't research if I have no idea what you are going on about.

I am sorry to hear about your own health issues.

I know a fair bit about medications for mental health having done some research on those over the years. I've been critical of these medications in the past. Medications for physical issues I know less about.

I just thought Statins were there to lower the fat in the blood?
 
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