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Point Blank: What Was Philip Byrnes’ Last Thought
I don’t need analysis from Ted Walsh, Leighton Aspell or Davy Russell.
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Point Blank: What Was Philip Byrnes’ Last Thought
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Bulletproof
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'I must time it right'
I don't even see where the 'risk of injury' they all spoke about was coming from, Slimmers. It was soft bunny hop, without any hazrad coming from behind him. As somebody on here might put it, 'there'd be a greater risk of injury rolling off me mott's sister.'
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It's important in terms of weighing it up versus the cost of winning.
I get that. I just thought it cringey all his inside supporters telling the ignorant public that the risk of certain death would dissuade anybody from leaping off a moving horse. The dive was so managed that the most he risked was a mild bruise to his left buttock.
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If will be a disgrace if they don't take the licence off him. They set a dangerous precedent letting Hogan off over the Dundalk clsimer.
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I only just noticed this (busy morning) and, pretty much as ever, a fascinating read in my (never-particularly-humble) opinion.
Predictably (Slim would have taken tens on) I'm going to sound a note of legal (did I ever mention I have a Law degree?) caution.
It wasn't a courtroom at the hearing, and it isn't a courtroom here either.
But I've spent much of my adult life sailing just close enough to the wind, but never that bit too close, to end up in one.
I've been threatened by legal action (and being target for a hit and run by a Bishop Auckland bus) but it's never actually happened.
Because, like the late Lemmy in Motörhead in Stay Clean, "I know the way, I know the Law" and anyone who ever went to a solicitor to moan about me would have been told they didn't (quite) have a case.
Since social media, you can't move for libellous allegations.
Fortunately for the hordes of social media big gobs, libelling (alleging something you can't subsequently prove in court) someone requires more than what's in the above brackets - "Did the target actually suffer a loss, material or detrimental to life quality? How many people even read it?"
That sort of thing.
Slim's only saying what many have said in the wake of this incident - Byrnes can't sue them all - but even so there are statements in this sub stack I wouldn't have made.
Nothing financially to gain, an albeit extremely remote chance of plenty to lose - a hiding to nothing, as they used to say.
But that aside, and maybe even because of it, another cracking read, I'd say (and just did).
Especially the stuff about a wider betting market globally beyond Betfair Exchange.
I personally think it's impossible to prove Byrnes deliberately exited the saddle per se, and the only thing that would establish beyond reasonable doubt that he did would be a betting and communication trail leading directly from him to those who profited on the betting markets from this event - the mere fact people did profit in an eye catching manner is not enough.
But I'm not Slim and this is just one reason why Slim is so much more interesting to read than Mr Risk Averse here.
Slim sails close to the wind so we (and especially me) don't have to.
Predictably (Slim would have taken tens on) I'm going to sound a note of legal (did I ever mention I have a Law degree?) caution.
It wasn't a courtroom at the hearing, and it isn't a courtroom here either.
But I've spent much of my adult life sailing just close enough to the wind, but never that bit too close, to end up in one.
I've been threatened by legal action (and being target for a hit and run by a Bishop Auckland bus) but it's never actually happened.
Because, like the late Lemmy in Motörhead in Stay Clean, "I know the way, I know the Law" and anyone who ever went to a solicitor to moan about me would have been told they didn't (quite) have a case.
Since social media, you can't move for libellous allegations.
Fortunately for the hordes of social media big gobs, libelling (alleging something you can't subsequently prove in court) someone requires more than what's in the above brackets - "Did the target actually suffer a loss, material or detrimental to life quality? How many people even read it?"
That sort of thing.
Slim's only saying what many have said in the wake of this incident - Byrnes can't sue them all - but even so there are statements in this sub stack I wouldn't have made.
Nothing financially to gain, an albeit extremely remote chance of plenty to lose - a hiding to nothing, as they used to say.
But that aside, and maybe even because of it, another cracking read, I'd say (and just did).
Especially the stuff about a wider betting market globally beyond Betfair Exchange.
I personally think it's impossible to prove Byrnes deliberately exited the saddle per se, and the only thing that would establish beyond reasonable doubt that he did would be a betting and communication trail leading directly from him to those who profited on the betting markets from this event - the mere fact people did profit in an eye catching manner is not enough.
But I'm not Slim and this is just one reason why Slim is so much more interesting to read than Mr Risk Averse here.
Slim sails close to the wind so we (and especially me) don't have to.
Nfehily19
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There's more chance of Man Utd winning the treble than anyone losing their license over this I'm afraid.
The game is just too cliquey and bent for that to happen imo.
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I framed the article in the correct way. My point is that I don't think the case should be adjudicated on the footage and nothing else. That's the only way to clean up the rot. Denis Hogan should never have got away with the Dundalk claimer. There is nothing libelous in what I said. I'm giving an opinion on freely available footage of this race.
